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[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by reese

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As I suspected, YOU are a prime example of the "dumbing down" of American education in the last decades.

Factuely must mean " I am sorry."

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Factuely must mean " I am sorry."

andy you are lying , i sent a response to what you sent me , those are the facts , you may not like them but those are the facts , i'm sure the mods can dig it up if necessary

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by gales0678

andy you are lying , i sent a response to what you sent me , those are the facts , you may not like them but those are the facts , i'm sure the mods can dig it up if necessary

Wow. This is really sad.

I'll just file this under no good deed goes unpunished.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Wow. This is really sad.

I'll just file this under no good deed goes unpunished.

what exactly is sad?

you sent me a PM , i sent a response , you said i didn't have the courtesy to respond to you , you are lying it's cut and dry , but that doesn't matter here people will believe whatever you say because that's what they want to do

some people here would give me the death penalty for going thru a stop sign, and some people here would give you community service for a double homicide , it's just that way it is i accept it , you have done a marvelous job at getting them to drink the kool-aid

[blackthroatedwind]

People earn respect. The constant whining that some are treated differently than others is flat out tiresome....and really nothing more than infantile complaining. Rather than looking inside oneself, the blame is placed elsewhere.

The facts are that I extended you the courtesy of explaining something to you despite the way you behave towards me. The facts are that you never responded. Whatever. It happens. However, to now call me a liar, instead of handling it like a man, and perhaps sending me a PM saying something to the affect that you " meant to, but you know how it goes, if you don't respond to PMs or e-mails quickly you often forget " is unfortunate. But, I guess it's OK, because apparently I can do whatever I want, and you are treated....how exactly? You post here with impugnity. You make false claims with impugnity.

Amazing.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

People earn respect. The constant whining that some are treated differently than others is flat out tiresome....and really nothing more than infantile complaining. Rather than looking inside oneself, the blame is placed elsewhere.

The facts are that I extended you the courtesy of explaining something to you despite the way you behave towards me. The facts are that you never responded. Whatever. It happens. However, to now call me a liar, instead of handling it like a man, and perhaps sending me a PM saying something to the affect that you " meant to, but you know how it goes, if you don't respond to PMs or e-mails quickly you often forget " is unfortunate. But, I guess it's OK, because apparently I can do whatever I want, and you are treated....how exactly? You post here with impugnity. You make false claims with impugnity.

Amazing.

do i have to actually tell Joey to go get the smoking gun?

[Danzig]

sorry, i agree with nyra not running on sunday. saturday was a huge day, no doubt everyone put in a lot of hours getting saturday taken care of without a hitch. for a fan who wanted to bet, sure it might be a pain to have one less track to put some money towards, but i can certainly understand why they didn't plan a card.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by gales0678

do i have to actually tell Joey to go get the smoking gun?

Contrary to the belief of your master, there is no access to PMs by moderators.

I am sure you meant to send one. I don't honestly think it was some intention of yours to be rude. That's why I always try to respond to PMs and e-mails immediately, as else it is easy to forget.

Then again, maybe my senility is setting in faster than I thought. Always a possibility.

[blackthroatedwind]

Yet another funny sidebar is that we originally weren't racing on Wednesday of last week and added that day late ( take a look at the NYRA Calendar if you don't realize this ).

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by HomerS

To me its a legitimate question.

See some good discussion on pro and con. Don't understand the because we have always done it that way thinking. Or making it seem like ludicrous premise. Its legitimate question worthy of discussion.

There was no question. Reread the first post. It is a criticism that most here have proven is unfounded.

You aren't a newbie based on your other posts so surely you realize your contrarian attitude based on your dislike of "the way it has always been done thinking" is not valid since not running on the Sunday following the Belmont is a relatively new idea.

[Linny]

In the past, NYRA has run on the day after the Belmont but this year they chose not to. I am not sure of the reasons but my guess would be, in no particular order:
Many huge crowd days when a TC was on the line (they had no idea when presenting the state with their calendar if a TC would be on the line) Cleanup after 100k patron day is a nightmare.

The fact they Memorial Day was the prior Monday AND they added Wed to the week. Usually Wed after a Monday holiday is dark.

The fact that MON has been a horse drain for them and filling good races has been tough.

Comparing Saratoga to Belmont is pointless. Fans would show up at Saratoga if they ran 9 New Jersey bred mule races.


The carryover is irrelevant. There was no way to know that there would be a carryover. In fact, I'd guess just by my recent play on big NYRA days (Belmont, JCGC etc) that more often it's a chalky P6. It's not like, at 7pm on Sat that they could suddenly get a card slated for Sunday because of the C/O. Having the few extra days should have been helpful to bettors and the casual fans that might have added to the ranks on Sunday were probably not playing the P6 anyhow.

NYRA had (realistically speaking) run too many races over the last two weeks between the holiday weekend cards and the 10 and 13 race days on Fr and Sat. They needed the break.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Linny

In the past, NYRA has run on the day after the Belmont but this year they chose not to. I am not sure of the reasons but my guess would be, in no particular order:

This was not the first year there was no racing the day after the Belmont.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

i sent andy a pm the other day thanking him for his observations.he wrote me back .

and gales..the crews need a break also..after a huge day the temp vendors are clearing out the press espn ect..its no big deal
why the hatred for nyra?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

i sent andy a pm the other day thanking him for his observations.he wrote me back .

and gales..the crews need a break also..after a huge day the temp vendors are clearing out the press espn ect..its no big deal
why the hatred for nyra?

matt - it's not hatred , it was a nice day , we could have had big turnout , there was a big c/o , i think it's a bad business decision that's all , nyra left a lot of money on the table by not running yesterday

the biggest disaster of the weekend was monmouth , and i even responed to randall about that , it's a personal opinion about NYRA and sunday , they could run sunday and not come back to thursday if they want to let everyone get an extra day off .

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by gales0678

matt - it's not hatred , it was a nice day , we could have had big turnout , there was a big c/o , i think it's a bad business decision that's all , nyra left a lot of money on the table by not running yesterday

the biggest disaster of the weekend was monmouth , and i even responed to randall about that , it's a personal opinion about NYRA and sunday , they could run sunday and not come back to thursday if they want to let everyone get an extra day off .

as far wagering on it weds gives people a bit of time to re group..also making it a big event mid week..many players who were on/off track were in mid travel or had to do something else. im pretty sure they have done this for sometime.off sunday after.

[Scav]

I love when there is no racing....

I'll second Bigs notion of not running, gives you time to handicap. I don't like NY wagering besides Saratoga but I'll probably give Wednesday a shot off the pure value.

[CSC]

I don't know who exactly was at fault here, NYRA or ABC or both, but it was absolutely disgraceful the Manhattan wasn't shown live for some internet wagering accounts or mine wasn't able to view it that I know. To make matters worst ABC seemed to think it was not worth showing either. This was the race I was most looking fwd to all day and to not be able to view as it was happening was just bullcrap.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by CSC

I don't know who exactly was at fault here, NYRA or ABC or both, but it was absolutely disgraceful the Manhattan wasn't shown live for some internet wagering accounts or mine wasn't able to view it that I know. To make matters worst ABC didn't seem to think it was not worth showing either. This was the race I was most looking fwd to all day and to not view as it was happening was just bullcrap.

What could possibly make you think NYRA wouldn't want ABC to show the Manhattan?

What's next, that NYRA was in cahoots with BP? This stuff is endless.

NT