Summer Bird Retired

[pointman]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

What an odd statement

What is so odd about my statement? Without inside information, it was hard to see why Ice deserved to lose this horse after what he had done with him. Then for the horse to be retired before he even made a start for Richey just seemed to me to make it a pretty silly move by the owners.

[TouchOfGrey]

Originally Posted by pointman

What is so odd about my statement? Without inside information, it was hard to see why Ice deserved to lose this horse after what he had done with him. Then for the horse to be retired before he even made a start for Richey just seemed to me to make it a pretty silly move by the owners.

from DRF:Summer Bird retired with hairline fracture

"There's no soundness problem," Jayaraman said. "He was supposed to start breezing last week, but we took an X-ray and he has still has a tiny hairline fracture that never healed completely. He's not lame and he's been galloping a couple of miles every day. But we had consultations with some veterinarians, and they all suggested it's safer not to put him through the rigors of training and it's safer to retire him as a stallion."

[foregos nuts]

Don't forget that JImmy Jerkens lost Quality Road because he would not bend to Evans "do whatever you have to do just win mentality"... Why do you think Q.R. went nuts in the starting gate at the breeders cup.Keep in mind Pletcher was DQ'd for a positive in a previous Breeders Cup and would do anything at any time to keep his winning %.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by foregos nuts

Don't forget that JImmy Jerkens lost Quality Road because he would not bend to Evans "do whatever you have to do just win mentality"... Why do you think Q.R. went nuts in the starting gate at the breeders cup.Keep in mind Pletcher was DQ'd for a positive in a previous Breeders Cup and would do anything at any time to keep his winning %.

never let the truth get in the way of a good story

[Round Pen]

Originally Posted by pointman

What is so odd about my statement? Without inside information, it was hard to see why Ice deserved to lose this horse after what he had done with him. Then for the horse to be retired before he even made a start for Richey just seemed to me to make it a pretty silly move by the owners.

Just ask the Owners of Unptowncharleybrown, they will give you all the inside information you want. Charley was in Ice's barn for a Short short time before Kiaran got him.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Round Pen

Just ask the Owners of Unptowncharleybrown, they will give you all the inside information you want. Charley was in Ice's barn for a Short short time before Kiaran got him.

I don't know the owners. Care to share?

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by pointman

What is so odd about my statement? Without inside information, it was hard to see why Ice deserved to lose this horse after what he had done with him. Then for the horse to be retired before he even made a start for Richey just seemed to me to make it a pretty silly move by the owners.

It was an odd statement because the fact that he was retired has no relation to SB being transfered to a new trainer. The horse broke his leg in Tim Ice care and for some reason the owners decided to change trainers thereafter.

[richard]

His pedigree is suspect for soundness . He was pushed too far at his age .

[pointman]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

It was an odd statement because the fact that he was retired has no relation to SB being transfered to a new trainer. The horse broke his leg in Tim Ice care and for some reason the owners decided to change trainers thereafter.

Tim Ice had something to do with SB fracturing his leg?

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by pointman

Tim Ice had something to do with SB fracturing his leg?

Did transferring the horse to another trainer had something to with SB retirement?

[pointman]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Did transferring the horse to another trainer had something to with SB retirement?

Did I ever say it did? I made a simple point that it was an arbitrary decision to change trainers with the horse after Ice campaigned the horse to an Eclipse award. I am sorry if it was too difficult for you to understand.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by pointman

Did I ever say it did? I made a simple point that it was an arbitrary decision to change trainers with the horse after Ice campaigned the horse to an Eclipse award. I am sorry if it was too difficult for you to understand.

Apparently the owners did not like him for some reason however its thier horse and thier decision to transfer trainers. It wasnt like Tim Richtey was a bad choice either. Also, do you blame Edward P Evans for switching trainers for Quality Road too?

[pointman]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Apparently the owners did not like him for some reason however its thier horse and thier decision to transfer trainers. It wasnt like Tim Richtey was a bad choice either. Also, do you blame Edward P Evans for switching trainers for Quality Road too?

You can disagree if you want, it is a merely an opinion. It doesn't make it odd because you disagree. It was my opinion at the time that a trainer change wouldn't improve a horse who appeared to be running at his highest level with Ice. Steve explained there was more to it after I posted, information I was not privy too. I have now wasted much more time responding to you than it is worth.