Romero, Azeri, PG, Best Pal make Hall; Vets add 3 inc. Pierce

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by CSC

Breeders are obsessed with bloodlines, we know this, look at Green Monkey, he was bought as a sire prospect despite being a complete failure as a racehorse.

I doubt that The Green Monkey "was bought as a sire prospect." He stands in Florida for Hartley-DeRenzo, his 2YO sale consignors. Besides, it's not like Forestry is anywhere near the perceived stallion that he was a few years ago (down to $17,500 advertised fee from $100,000).

That being said, I do agree that modest race horses with good bloodlines may be given a chance at stud. Not that I am trying to make him out as more than he is (a decent NY stallion), but a horse like Freud would have never been given an opportunity at stud if he wasn't a sibling to Giant's Causeway.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I doubt that The Green Monkey "was bought as a sire prospect." He stands in Florida for Hartley-DeRenzo, his 2YO sale consignors. Besides, it's not like Forestry is anywhere near the perceived stallion that he was a few years ago (down to $17,500 advertised fee from $100,000).

That being said, I do agree that modest race horses with good bloodlines may be given a chance at stud. Not that I am trying to make him out as more than he is (a decent NY stallion), but a horse like Freud would have never been given an opportunity at stud if he wasn't a sibling to Giant's Causeway.

OK... what was he bought to be then, a ride for the kiddies at a carnival?

That's a silly statement.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by philcski

OK... what was he bought to be then, a ride for the kiddies at a carnival?

That's a silly statement.

Maybe I should clarify my thoughts. I doubt they paid much, if anything, to re-obtain him.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Maybe I should clarify my thoughts. I doubt they paid much, if anything, to re-obtain him.

Coolmore may still retain a piece of the horse.

[Cannon Shell]

Hartley/De Renzo has bought back into the horse and will partner with John Magnier.

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...e%20Renzo.aspx

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Coolmore may still retain a piece of the horse.

I'd imagine they would, should a miracle happen.

He covered 40 mares in 2009, so it's not like many outside breeders are rushing to him, if H/D are breeding 25 of their own to him.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Maybe I should clarify my thoughts. I doubt they paid much, if anything, to re-obtain him.

If they only paid $20 to re-obtain him, and stand him as a stallion with the intention of selling breeding dates, he is a stallion prospect. End of story.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by philcski

If they only paid $20 to re-obtain him, and stand him as a stallion with the intention of selling breeding dates, he is a stallion prospect. End of story.

I think it was $9.99

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I think it was $9.99

****... shoulda bought some shamwows instead