Zito Comes to His Senses

Well there goes any chance of the exotics paying over $10

[randallscott35]

Yes Blackthroat, that's I said he "may well be" running....I thought he would when Invasor went out. Odds he runs. 80/20.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Yes Blackthroat, that's I said he "may well be" running....I thought he would when Invasor went out. Odds he runs. 80/20.

I understand what you said but you also titled the thread " Zito comes to his senses ". 80/20? I don't know. I talked to him last night. He's certainly thinking about it.

[randallscott35]

Bernardini doesn't have to win this. I still think 10 panels is not Sun King's game, but they don't have a flat mile race in the BC which is what they should have.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Bernardini doesn't have to win this. I still think 10 panels is not Sun King's game, but they don't have a flat mile race in the BC which is what they should have.

I love mile races, and agree that Sun King is probably best suited to that distance, but there are two major problems with having a mile dirt race in the BC. One is that many tracks can't even run the distance ( and there is a significant difference between one and two turn miles ) But, I think the biggest problem is it will detract from and dilute the other races.

I think the Met Mile and the Cigar Mile are the two best stakes of the year in NY ( though the Whitney seems to be the most exciting year in and year out ).

One thing about Sun King and 1 1/4, while I tend to agree with you, he hasn't gone that far since recently elevating his game. His races in the Commonwealth, Met, Whitney and probably even the Woodward are arguably the best races he has ever run. He may just be at the top of his game.

[Seattleallstar]

SUn King is a born loser, a hanger with no heart and class, During his 3 yr old yr he could compete with the best but barely win at the group 1 level

[1st_Saturday_in_May]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

SUn King is a born loser

So, you and he do have something in common then!

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Seattle, don't talk about my man Sun King like that
He is very classy.

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

SUn King is a born loser, a hanger with no heart and class, During his 3 yr old yr he could compete with the best but barely win at the group 1 level

Jerry how ironic is it that the quote that you apply here, no heart and class, applies quite well to someone I know.

[boswd]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I love mile races, and agree that Sun King is probably best suited to that distance, but there are two major problems with having a mile dirt race in the BC. One is that many tracks can't even run the distance ( and there is a significant difference between one and two turn miles ) But, I think the biggest problem is it will detract from and dilute the other races.

I think the Met Mile and the Cigar Mile are the two best stakes of the year in NY ( though the Whitney seems to be the most exciting year in and year out ).

One thing about Sun King and 1 1/4, while I tend to agree with you, he hasn't gone that far since recently elevating his game. His races in the Commonwealth, Met, Whitney and probably even the Woodward are arguably the best races he has ever run. He may just be at the top of his game.

I don't know. I personally think Sun King just may be more than ready to tackle 10fs. Look at the way he was charging down the stretch in both the Whitney and the Woodward, if both of them had been 1 1/4 I think he may would have won them. He just may relish the extra distance. Sort of reminds me of Victory Gallop and 1 1/2. Was always just short and charging but with that extra distance he was able to pull it out.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by boswd

I don't know. I personally think Sun King just may be more than ready to tackle 10fs. Look at the way he was charging down the stretch in both the Whitney and the Woodward, if both of them had been 1 1/4 I think he may would have won them. He just may relish the extra distance. Sort of reminds me of Victory Gallop and 1 1/2. Was always just short and charging but with that extra distance he was able to pull it out.

I disagree. I dont think he wants to go that far. I think he would have a hard time either sustaining his run longer or having enough kick after going the extra distance.

Sun King has been admirable with what he has achieved but the added stretch would do him in.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I understand what you said but you also titled the thread " Zito comes to his senses ". 80/20? I don't know. I talked to him last night. He's certainly thinking about it.

I hear ya, just a guess on the odds. Lot of money out there.

[1st_Saturday_in_May]

I dont know. Horse fires big every other time and last time in the Woodward was one of his off efforts. He'll run big in the JCGC but wont be as tough in the Classic. I wanna play him in the Classic real bad, esp. if Ball Four runs, so I say keep him out. Save him for Churchill!

[Seattleallstar]

Sun King is a loser defintely doesnt have the class to compete with the best

[Slewstoo]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

Sun King is a loser defintely doesnt have the class to compete with the best

Don't be stupid...this horse has done nothing but compete with the "class" of the east coast all year long. To say he's a loser is asinine.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Slewstoo

Don't be stupid...this horse has done nothing but compete with the "class" of the east coast all year long. To say he's a loser is asinine.

Your trying to talk sense to Seattle, that is like talking to a elephant and hoping for a response

[Slewstoo]

Originally Posted by Scav

Your trying to talk sense to Seattle, that is like talking to a elephant and hoping for a response

Good point, I just couldn't help myself (which usually happens when it comes to defending Sun King)