Ice Box takes the last two Triple Crown races

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the belmont, in general, is not a closers race. a race with early pace is a closers dream, the distance doesn't really have anything to do with it.

The Belmont is a Zito race.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by jms62

The Belmont is a Zito race.

While he has won two of the last six runnings of the Belmont, let's not forget that he has run horses in 15 Belmonts and won twice, so it's not like he's Woody Stephens.

NT

[jms62]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

While he has won two of the last six runnings of the Belmont, let's not forget that he has run horses in 15 Belmonts and won twice, so it's not like he's Woody Stephens.

NT

You are right. I don't have the stats in front of me but I know he has beaten me a few times getting horses into the Super that I thought had no chance.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by jms62

You are right. I don't have the stats in front of me but I know he has beaten me a few times getting horses into the Super that I thought had no chance.

Yes, his ITM & is a very solid 50 for the Belmont. 11 of his 22 starters have finished in the money (22 starts, 2 wins, 6 seconds, 3 thirds).

NT

[dean smith]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

While he has won two of the last six runnings of the Belmont, let's not forget that he has run horses in 15 Belmonts and won twice, so it's not like he's Woody Stephens.

NT

There are hundreds of trainers out there. Two out of fifteen (13%) is a pretty good percentage. I'm not saying you're wrong or right. I'm just throwing that out there. A guy wins two Kentucky Derbys in a decade and a half and he's a lock for the Hall, isn't he?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

The Belmont is a Zito race.

sure, with the right horse.

as for the eye roll mister b, you must have been thinking of da tara?