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Old 04-23-2010, 11:16 AM
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That is not a valid argument. There is no shortage of little people.
Making weight without doing something life threatening? I disagree.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:22 AM
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Making weight without doing something life threatening? I disagree.
I fail to see how people cant grasp this concept. If you naturally weight 130 pounds and the weights that you are being asked to do is 115 then you either have to reduce 15 pounds or get another job. If we increase the scale of weight to 130 pounds then people who naturally weight 140 pounds are suddenly not far from riding weight and begin to reduce. If we raise the scale to 140 pounds then guys who weigh 150 pounds begin to reduce...

The thing is this, where do you draw the line? The weight scale HAS been raised and very rarely will a non bug rider be asked to do less than 115.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:27 AM
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I fail to see how people cant grasp this concept. If you naturally weight 130 pounds and the weights that you are being asked to do is 115 then you either have to reduce 15 pounds or get another job. If we increase the scale of weight to 130 pounds then people who naturally weight 140 pounds are suddenly not far from riding weight and begin to reduce. If we raise the scale to 140 pounds then guys who weigh 150 pounds begin to reduce...

The thing is this, where do you draw the line? The weight scale HAS been raised and very rarely will a non bug rider be asked to do less than 115.
I understand what you are saying, I would fall in the middle of that though....If you used that rationale all the way back you would have Calista Flockhart riding at 80 pounds so it's not so cut and dry.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:35 AM
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I understand what you are saying, I would fall in the middle of that though....If you used that rationale all the way back you would have Calista Flockhart riding at 80 pounds so it's not so cut and dry.
No one is asking anyone to do anything life threatening. If you are forced to go to those extremes to ride then you are more than likely too big. Asking jockeys to weigh 115-118, which is where most of them fall, is not unfair.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:38 AM
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No one is asking anyone to do anything life threatening. If you are forced to go to those extremes to ride then you are more than likely too big. Asking jockeys to weigh 115-118, which is where most of them fall, is not unfair.
Not unfair....just that times change and bodies change. James Madison would've made an excellent jock.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:55 AM
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Not unfair....just that times change and bodies change. James Madison would've made an excellent jock.
Couldn't the same argument be used as far as the horses go?
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:57 AM
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Couldn't the same argument be used as far as the horses go?
Not sure how, I mean the modern thoro is surely a lot less sturdy than years ago. Drugs and bad breeding are part of the reason....I guess you could use that as an argument not to increase weight. True.
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