DERBY 136: Jocks nearly finalized; Bejarano gets Line of David..

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

You know, on Homeboykris, isn't there a point for Dutrow/the Sergio's guy/Joe Torre where it's perfectly clear that your horse isn't good/sound enough to be running in the Derby off three months rest, and maybe you point somewhere else? I mean, isn't there someone at CDI or the NTRA or somewhere begging these guys to reconsider?

For those that don't understand why Homeboy Kris is running, Louie Lazzinaro ("Sergio's guy") doesn't expect to stay heavily involved in the sport with his close friend Bobby Frankel having passed. He is not outrageously wealthy with money to burn chasing a Derby dream like a Ken Ramsey. He simply wants to be able to experience having a horse in the Derby knowing there almost certainly will never be another chance for him. It's as simple as that and I doubt any one of us would feel differently if the opportunity came our way.

Originally Posted by Kasept

For those that don't understand why Homeboy Kris is running, Louie Lazzinaro ("Sergio's guy") doesn't expect to stay heavily involved in the sport with his close friend Bobby Frankel having passed. He is not outrageously wealthy with money to burn chasing a Derby dream like a Ken Ramsey. He simply wants to be able to experience having a horse in the Derby knowing there almost certainly will never be another chance for him. It's as simple as that and I doubt any one of us would feel differently if the opportunity came our way.

Plus it's of the utmost importance that he's invited to the "I had a horse in the Kentucky Derby" Facebook group.

[Kasept]

Willie Martinez will ride Noble's Promise should he go in the Derby. Moved from 50-50 to 60-40 after today's work according to Kenny McPeek.

[slotdirt]

I get the "having a Derby experience" deal, but there seem to be some underlying issues with this horse that would lead me to believe they'd want to err on the side of caution. Plus, the horse makes Mine that Bird look like a good bet last year. If Homeboykris actually runs in the Derby this year, I will almost guarantee the graded earnings format is changed for the 2011 Run for the Roses.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Willie Martinez will ride Noble's Promise should he go in the Derby. Moved from 50-50 to 60-40 after today's work according to Kenny McPeek.

Heard about the work and thought that might happen. Thanks for the update Steve. Those scratches must be looking better, or he's running well enough in spite of them.

[randallscott35]

I hope he runs.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Willie Martinez will ride Noble's Promise should he go in the Derby. Moved from 50-50 to 60-40 after today's work according to Kenny McPeek.

So in reality that means he's 95%. He's not looking for sign the horse can compete, they are looking for a reason not to go.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Kasept

For those that don't understand why Homeboy Kris is running, Louie Lazzinaro ("Sergio's guy") doesn't expect to stay heavily involved in the sport with his close friend Bobby Frankel having passed. He is not outrageously wealthy with money to burn chasing a Derby dream like a Ken Ramsey. He simply wants to be able to experience having a horse in the Derby knowing there almost certainly will never be another chance for him. It's as simple as that and I doubt any one of us would feel differently if the opportunity came our way.

Racing needs to follow the marathon model. If a bunch of spastics want to run in the marathon against world class runners, NO PROBLEM, say the, for example, NY Marathon bigwigs. We'll start you AFTER the world class group, so you don't get in their way, let them run like athletes while you do the Special Olympian thing and let them collect their money for running well.

Problem with the Derby is that the Special Olympian horses get in the way of the better horses' chances of winning the race. We don't need 5 speed horses and 5 pick up the pieces after EVERYONE else has run types. Which, I suppose makes the race interesting if you're better 150 combos but not bettable if you're trying to make some money. In other words, Homeboy Kris' connections would probably be better served looking into a match race situation with Sweetnorthernsaint -- you know, the horse that, more often than not, impedes itself at the gate. I know I'd pay good money to see that one.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Kasept

For those that don't understand why Homeboy Kris is running, Louie Lazzinaro ("Sergio's guy") doesn't expect to stay heavily involved in the sport with his close friend Bobby Frankel having passed. He is not outrageously wealthy with money to burn chasing a Derby dream like a Ken Ramsey. He simply wants to be able to experience having a horse in the Derby knowing there almost certainly will never be another chance for him. It's as simple as that and I doubt any one of us would feel differently if the opportunity came our way.

I would hate to see how much it would cost for a glass of wine if he was trying to get outrageously wealthy!

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I would hate to see how much it would cost for a glass of wine if he was trying to get outrageously wealthy!

Yuck, yuck, yuck... Louie probably comps as much wine for patrons as he sells.

(And since when do you need to pay for your drinks in Saratoga? Just wear that slinky red number of yours and you'll never pay for anything.. anywhere.)

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by Kasept

For those that don't understand why Homeboy Kris is running, Louie Lazzinaro ("Sergio's guy") doesn't expect to stay heavily involved in the sport with his close friend Bobby Frankel having passed. He is not outrageously wealthy with money to burn chasing a Derby dream like a Ken Ramsey. He simply wants to be able to experience having a horse in the Derby knowing there almost certainly will never be another chance for him. It's as simple as that and I doubt any one of us would feel differently if the opportunity came our way.

I don't blame them at all. If I had enough money to blow, I'd buy HomeboyKris and run him myself while I watch from the infield. Everyone knows the rules (except Mandella) so too friggin bad if you get left out.

[analyizethis]

Given the state of the potenial field, does it look like we will have any coupled betting interests?

I'm not familar enough with local rules but it seems like Rule and Super Saver would be most likely and what about Ice Box and Jackson Bend (if he gets in).

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by analyizethis

Given the state of the potenial field, does it look like we will have any coupled betting interests?

I'm not familar enough with local rules but it seems like Rule and Super Saver would be most likely and what about Ice Box and Jackson Bend (if he gets in).

The Derby no longer permits coupled entries.