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Old 04-02-2010, 03:00 PM
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if you liked that, you'll love this utterly tone deaf vatican response:


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...3A4PAD9ER3GTO0

VATICAN CITY — Pope Benedict XVI's personal preacher on Friday likened accusations against the pope and the Catholic church in the sex abuse scandal to "collective violence" suffered by the Jews.
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if you liked that, you'll love this utterly tone deaf vatican response:


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...3A4PAD9ER3GTO0

VATICAN CITY — Pope Benedict XVI's personal preacher on Friday likened accusations against the pope and the Catholic church in the sex abuse scandal to "collective violence" suffered by the Jews.
i just finished reading about that on msnbc. outrageous and completely out of touch with what the real issue is here.



'While Cantalamessa delivered his ringing defense of the pontiff, the church in Benedict's native Germany made the unusually frank admission that it failed to help victims of clerical abuse because it wanted to protect its reputation.

Archbishop Robert Zollitsch, head of the German bishops' conference, said clerics neglected helping victims because of a "wrongly intended desire to protect the church's reputation." '

the church sticks its head in the sand, pretends everything is hunky dory, and hopes it'll all just go away. well, everything but the money.

i think the desire to protect the church's image is what contributed, and continues to contribute to how these abuse cases are handled-which is very, very poorly.


but for that guy to compare this to the holocaust-gimme a break.
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apparently it's the church's position that this is all 'petty gossip'. have they no concept of reality? how much credibility will the church have when this is all said and done?
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Old 04-04-2010, 12:40 PM
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i figure in about four hundred years a pope will apologize for all this. that's about how long it took for an apology after the inquisitions ended. i understand the current pope wants to re-start the prayer for the conversion of jews as well.
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i figure in about four hundred years a pope will apologize for all this. that's about how long it took for an apology after the inquisitions ended. i understand the current pope wants to re-start the prayer for the conversion of jews as well.
they're incapable of dealing with this issue in a way that satisfies anyone outside. no modern institution works like the vatican other than the vatican.

you hit it on the head with the idea that it will take centuries because those are the time frames they believe they have to deal in.

obviously it's ridiculous but they actually think they're weighing a small matter like child rape against the bigger issue of redeeming the world.

and compared to the torture and murder of the inquisition, how bad is a few thousand raped kids? it's not like they endorsed child rape. they only hid the fact some low level employee's engaged in it for decades.

the inquisition happened. and they have a billion + believer's.

why would they think this isn't something that blows over in the next 50 years with essentially no damage? walk a mile in their shoes.
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