Stimulus jobs certainly do exist

[Riot]

What would we do if we didn't have a 30 to 1 ratio of people looking to actual jobs available?

Maybe have a 40 to 1 ratio? We'd definitely have 100 more people still unemployed in Lexington. Rather than now employed in well-paying jobs that get them off the unemployment rolls.

Yeah, that's worthy of disparagement!

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

short term jobs at that

A year plus, with 1/3 of them permanent hires. Probably better we didn't have these stimulus jobs available at all, right?

You guys are hilarious.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Maybe have a 40 to 1 ratio? We'd definitely have 100 more people still unemployed in Lexington. Rather than now employed in well-paying jobs that get them off the unemployment rolls.

Yeah, that's worthy of disparagement!



A year plus, with 1/3 of them permanent hires. Probably better we didn't have these stimulus jobs available at all, right?

You guys are hilarious.

As usual you take the low road. While it is nice that these 100 people got jobs and that 33 of them may actually have a job this time next year, you make this out like so kind of huge achievement. There are tens of millions without jobs, this is 33 full time jobs. What exactly does this prove?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

As usual you take the low road. While it is nice that these 100 people got jobs and that 33 of them may actually have a job this time next year, you make this out like so kind of huge achievement. There are tens of millions without jobs, this is 33 full time jobs. What exactly does this prove?

it proves that , nah better not say it chuck

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

As usual you take the low road. While it is nice that these 100 people got jobs and that 33 of them may actually have a job this time next year, you make this out like so kind of huge achievement. There are tens of millions without jobs, this is 33 full time jobs. What exactly does this prove?

I "take the low road"? What a load of nonsense. I didn't say it was a "huge achievement". It was posted in response to the people here that say - repeatedly - the stimulus didn't create any jobs. Yeah. It did. And continues to.

Geeshus, you Obama-haters are thin and pathetic in your attacks

[Danzig]

i wonder what the ratio is of $ vs jobs actually created at this point....

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i wonder what the ratio is of $ vs jobs actually created at this point....

Only about 1/3 of the funds have been disbursed so far (more to come this year, next) so you'd have to look at the website for this at .gov

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Only about 1/3 of the funds have been disbursed so far (more to come this year, next) so you'd have to look at the website for this at .gov

Under the obama Presidency a lot of numbers found at .gov websites have been fictional

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Under the obama Presidency a lot of numbers found at .gov websites have been fictional

Actually no, only a few were, and they were not posted by the White House to the site, but by States.

Reality must really kill you ultra cons.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Riot

Only about 1/3 of the funds have been disbursed so far (more to come this year, next) so you'd have to look at the website for this at .gov

why not dusburse the $ to the american people know riot , we need help

what are they waiting for

[Riot]

Originally Posted by gales0678

why not dusburse the $ to the american people know riot , we need help

what are they waiting for

Guess that immediate huge middle class tax cut just didn't mean anything to you, huh?

[Danzig]

http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/30/news...ated/index.htm


i found this article, from dec 1...


The largest stimulus program in the nation's history has created or saved just over 640,000 jobs, the Obama administration said Friday.

Based on $159 billion in spending from the $787 billion recovery package, the tally is the first broad, concrete look at the stimulus program's impact on the economy. The numbers are drawn from 57,000 reports from state and local recipients and include as many as 30,000 jobs from private companies.

that's a pretty good amount isn't it?



til you do the math.



Friday's numbers were quickly used by both Democrats and Republicans to further their arguments about the value of stimulus. Each job cost $248,000 to create.


i added the money left to be spent, and then subtracted jobs created thus far. i come up with $125k per job left to be created. awesome.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/30/news...ated/index.htm


i found this article, from dec 1...


The largest stimulus program in the nation's history has created or saved just over 640,000 jobs, the Obama administration said Friday.

Based on $159 billion in spending from the $787 billion recovery package, the tally is the first broad, concrete look at the stimulus program's impact on the economy. The numbers are drawn from 57,000 reports from state and local recipients and include as many as 30,000 jobs from private companies.

that's a pretty good amount isn't it?



til you do the math.



Friday's numbers were quickly used by both Democrats and Republicans to further their arguments about the value of stimulus. Each job cost $248,000 to create.


i added the money left to be spent, and then subtracted jobs created thus far. i come up with $125k per job left to be created. awesome.

When "jobs saved" is used just disregard the number. It is a made up number. There is no accurate means of determining "jobs saved".

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/30/news...ated/index.htm

i added the money left to be spent, and then subtracted jobs created thus far. i come up with $125k per job left to be created. awesome.

I don't understand the point of that? Wouldn't it make more sense to take the funds spent to date, subtract the necessary administrative costs, then take the remainding fund amount and divide by the number of actual jobs created? (reality rather than future guesstimation)

And as only about 1/4 of the funds were spent by then, just keep doing that every quarter over the several-year life of the stimulus disbursement, to get a more accurate cost per real job created?

[AeWingnut]

$800 billion divided by 200 million workers = how much per worker?

There are real problems with our infrastructure and this guy is creating middle management paper pushing gubment jobs that ad zer0 value.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

I "take the low road"? What a load of nonsense. I didn't say it was a "huge achievement". It was posted in response to the people here that say - repeatedly - the stimulus didn't create any jobs. Yeah. It did. And continues to.

Geeshus, you Obama-haters are thin and pathetic in your attacks

Attacks? You seem to be the one attacking. My referring to the "low road" is how you seem incredulous that we would dare challenge you or Obama. Only someone looking for a fight would literally post short term jobs created by the stimulus. Your guy spent $800 billion dollars. Bragging about a few residual jobs created, especially when so many of them are temporary, is petty.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Attacks? You seem to be the one attacking. My referring to the "low road" is how you seem incredulous that we would dare challenge you or Obama. Only someone looking for a fight would literally post short term jobs created by the stimulus. Your guy spent $800 billion dollars. Bragging about a few residual jobs created, especially when so many of them are temporary, is petty.

ROFLMAO. Yeah, you keep trying that spin, Chuck

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

ROFLMAO. Yeah, you keep trying that spin, Chuck

Yeah spin. right. It wasnt me who started this petty thread. It isnt me who acts as though the stimulus has saved the world and continues to ignore the reality of 10% unemployment. It isnt me who started the "personal" attacks in this ridiclous thread.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah spin. right. It wasnt me who started this petty thread. It isnt me who acts as though the stimulus has saved the world and continues to ignore the reality of 10% unemployment. It isnt me who started the "personal" attacks in this ridiclous thread.

10% chuck , you are being very conservative

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah spin. right. It wasnt me who started this petty thread. .

Yeah, you poor thing, you were forced to come post on this thread and throw insults at me.

Living under Obama is hell!

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Riot

Maybe have a 40 to 1 ratio? We'd definitely have 100 more people still unemployed in Lexington. Rather than now employed in well-paying jobs that get them off the unemployment rolls.

Yeah, that's worthy of disparagement!



A year plus, with 1/3 of them permanent hires. Probably better we didn't have these stimulus jobs available at all, right?

You guys are hilarious.

What you fail to recognize is the long term costs of programs like these. So it's easy for you to say, 100 more jobs, let's do cartwheels while we bankrupt our future generations with big government. Whoopdey do.