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Old 09-26-2006, 07:30 PM
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What did the article say? It did not say that the CIA concluded that the meeting betwen Atta and Iraqi agents did not take place. It said that the report cast doubts about the meeting. There is a big difference.

The same thing can be said for everyting else in the article. There was nothing in there that specicfically contradicted anything that Bush or Cheney said. Juts because it said that Hussein generally viewed extremists as a threat, that does not mean that he never aided extremists.

I can't tell you that I know for a fact that Bush never said anything that he knew wasn't true, but as of right now I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe that Bush purposefully lied. He basically did the same thing that you have been doing throughout this thread. He simply believed what he wanted to believe. He gladly accepted evidence that supported what he believed, yet ignored evidence that contradicted what he believed.
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:34 PM
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What did the article say? It did not say that the CIA concluded that the meeting betwen Atta and Iraqi agents did not take place. It said that the report cast doubts about the meeting. There is a big difference.

The same thing can be said for everyting else in the article. There was nothing in there that specicfically contradicted anything that Bush or Cheney said. Juts because it said that Hussein generally viewed extremists as a threat, that does not mean that he never aided extremists.

I can't tell you that I know for a fact that Bush never said anything that he knew wasn't true, but as of right now I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe that Bush purposefully lied. He basically did the same thing that you have been doing throughout this thread. He simply believed what he wanted to believe. He gladly accepted evidence that supported what he believed, yet ignored evidence that contradicted what he believed.
And you have been Mr openminded? Please.

If you dont believe reports from your own CIA, then what do you believe? And how can you in one breath use CIA information as ammunition and then ignore it when it doesnt suit your needs?

It was obvious deception an anyone with a brain knows it.
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:41 PM
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And you have been Mr openminded? Please.

If you dont believe reports from your own CIA, then what do you believe? And how can you in one breath use CIA information as ammunition and then ignore it when it doesnt suit your needs?

It was obvious deception an anyone with a brain knows it.
Where did I say that I didn't believe reports from the CIA? The CIA did not say that the meeting between Atta and Iraqi agents did not take place.

I'm open-minded. I never said that I know for sure that Bush and Cheney did not lie. I recognize that it is possible that they might have lied. I'm just giving them the benefit of the doubt. There is no question that they have given some half-truths. I don't excuse them for that. I don't like half-truths from either side. Unfortunately it seems that half-truths are par for the course from both sides in this day and age in politics.
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:44 PM
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i think they should go back to duels and canings.
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:06 PM
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Where did I say that I didn't believe reports from the CIA? The CIA did not say that the meeting between Atta and Iraqi agents did not take place.

I'm open-minded. I never said that I know for sure that Bush and Cheney did not lie. I recognize that it is possible that they might have lied. I'm just giving them the benefit of the doubt. There is no question that they have given some half-truths. I don't excuse them for that. I don't like half-truths from either side. Unfortunately it seems that half-truths are par for the course from both sides in this day and age in politics.
then i stand corrected. Fair enough.

Im going back to arguing horses. Much more enlightening and entertaining!
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