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Old 02-11-2010, 08:28 PM
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Where do you get that from?

http://espndb.go.com/nba/finals/stat.../dwight-howard (look on the right side of the page under ESPN research)

Lebron wants to win and jamison would make them better and Washington is going to have a fire sale. That doesnt mean LeBron has decided that they cant win without him but obviously he would rather have him on his side.
Why would Lebron lobby so hard for a trade thus taking away any leverage cleveland would have if he didnt think a trade is essential? This is common sense. Its not as stupid as saying Delonte West is anything but a very average NBA player but at the same time confident players don't lobby for trades. If it were just a matter of Jamison making a team better, why doesnt EVERY contender's superstar lobby like Lebron is?

Cleveland is playing good ball but they are kind of like the Indianapolis Colts of the NBA.
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Old 02-11-2010, 08:33 PM
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Why would Lebron lobby so hard for a trade thus taking away any leverage cleveland would have if he didnt think a trade is essential? This is common sense. Its not as stupid as saying Delonte West is anything but a very average NBA player but at the same time confident players don't lobby for trades. If it were just a matter of Jamison making a team better, why doesnt EVERY contender's superstar lobby like Lebron is?

Cleveland is playing good ball but they are kind of like the Indianapolis Colts of the NBA.

By this title, I was expecting, ''Duh."
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Old 02-11-2010, 08:52 PM
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By this title, I was expecting, ''Duh."
We weren't talking about Eric Snow. (who by the way is by far the worst male analyst on NBAtv, Cheryl Miller is absolutely the worst)
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Old 02-11-2010, 09:01 PM
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We weren't talking about Eric Snow. (who by the way is by far the worst male analyst on NBAtv, Cheryl Miller is absolutely the worst)
Dahla could put both to sleep.
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Old 02-11-2010, 08:42 PM
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Why would Lebron lobby so hard for a trade thus taking away any leverage cleveland would have if he didnt think a trade is essential? This is common sense. Its not as stupid as saying Delonte West is anything but a very average NBA player but at the same time confident players don't lobby for trades. If it were just a matter of Jamison making a team better, why doesnt EVERY contender's superstar lobby like Lebron is?

Cleveland is playing good ball but they are kind of like the Indianapolis Colts of the NBA.
The only leverage in the NBA when it comes to trades is money. of course you knew that.

Why doesn't everybody's superstar lobby for Jamison? Who else needs a guy like him? Orlando? No. Boston? No. The Lakers? No. Denver? No. They already have players that have a similar game to Jamison. You act like LeBron is running a telethon to raise funds to find a cure. Where are you seeing all this lobbying?
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Old 02-11-2010, 08:57 PM
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The only leverage in the NBA when it comes to trades is money. of course you knew that.

Why doesn't everybody's superstar lobby for Jamison? Who else needs a guy like him? Orlando? No. Boston? No. The Lakers? No. Denver? No. They already have players that have a similar game to Jamison. You act like LeBron is running a telethon to raise funds to find a cure. Where are you seeing all this lobbying?
Boston couldnt use Jamison? Sure they could. As could Orlando. Lakers are set. Denver couldnt use a 6-9 forward that can shoot threes, rebound and score in the low post? He wouldnt help atlanta? Get real.

I don't understand your initial statement about leverage and money. Can you clarify?
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Old 02-11-2010, 09:07 PM
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Boston couldnt use Jamison? Sure they could. As could Orlando. Lakers are set. Denver couldnt use a 6-9 forward that can shoot threes, rebound and score in the low post? He wouldnt help atlanta? Get real.

I don't understand your initial statement about leverage and money. Can you clarify?
Boston needs another aging, power forward making lots of money? What KG and Rasheed arent enough?
Orlando needs another perimeter player? Dont Vince carter and Lewis take enough jumpshots for ya?
Denver? How does he fit in the rotation with Martin, nene, carmello and Birdman?
Atlanta? You think Atlanta is going to add that kind of salary for a guy who is not a difference maker?

You seemingly dont realize that none of these teams have a need that jamison is worth trading for. The guy is old, makes a lot of money and you are stuck with him after this season. Cleveland is the only team that absolutely needs a player of his skill set and would be willing to spend the money.
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Old 02-11-2010, 09:11 PM
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Boston needs another aging, power forward making lots of money? What KG and Rasheed arent enough?
Orlando needs another perimeter player? Dont Vince carter and Lewis take enough jumpshots for ya?
Denver? How does he fit in the rotation with Martin, nene, carmello and Birdman?
Atlanta? You think Atlanta is going to add that kind of salary for a guy who is not a difference maker?

You seemingly dont realize that none of these teams have a need that jamison is worth trading for. The guy is old, makes a lot of money and you are stuck with him after this season. Cleveland is the only team that absolutely needs a player of his skill set and would be willing to spend the money.
You said it. Thank you. Case closed.

Now what were you saying about money and leverage?
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Old 02-11-2010, 09:19 PM
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You said it. Thank you. Case closed.

Now what were you saying about money and leverage?
Case closed? The Lakers absolutely needed a guy to run the point for them. Think if Jason Kidd was available for an expiring contract Kobe wouldn't have been all over that? does that mean they arent good enough?

Cleveland has the leverage simply because there are no other teams that have a need for a player with Jamisons skills that have any incentive to add salary. Perhaps Dallas because they may make a move just to do something but who else is there? Supply and Demand. There isnt much demand.
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Old 02-11-2010, 09:25 PM
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Case closed? The Lakers absolutely needed a guy to run the point for them. Think if Jason Kidd was available for an expiring contract Kobe wouldn't have been all over that? does that mean they arent good enough?

Cleveland has the leverage simply because there are no other teams that have a need for a player with Jamisons skills that have any incentive to add salary. Perhaps Dallas because they may make a move just to do something but who else is there? Supply and Demand. There isnt much demand.
Houston wants him too. a lot of teams want him but the wiz want too much.

The Lakers would NOT trade for Jason Kidd right now. Too much risk of chemistry issues at this point. Maybe if he were available in the offseason they might have bit but not now. Don't be silly.
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My thoughts on NBA midseason:

They still play professional basketball?

Snore.
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