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Old 06-09-2006, 12:37 PM
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Pimlico is different in that (normally), the Kentucky Derby winner is contending for another win and a chance at the triple crown. Once the Preakness is done, the amount of people at Belmont will be largely determined on whether or not we have a triple crown contender.
Not sure what your point is. If Barbaro was going for the triple crown the friday stakes race would still be the Hill Prince. That Friday is poorly marketed. They didn't get anyone there even when a TC was on the line.
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Old 06-09-2006, 12:39 PM
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Not sure what your point is. If Barbaro was going for the triple crown the friday stakes race would still be the Hill Prince. That Friday is poorly marketed. They didn't get anyone there even when a TC was on the line.
My point is... people don't come to Pimlico on Friday because of the special... they come to be around the hype. If there were hype this year, it wouldn't matter WHAT was being run today. People would be there.
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Old 06-09-2006, 12:41 PM
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My point is... people don't come to Pimlico on Friday because of the special... they come to be around the hype. If there were hype this year, it wouldn't matter WHAT was being run today. People would be there.
Not true. The Friday in NY never amounted to anything and the hype for the last leg of the TC is much bigger if a horse has 2 of the 3 already won. NYRA just makes zero effort. That is why they are losing their franchise.
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Old 06-09-2006, 12:43 PM
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Not true. The Friday in NY never amounted to anything and the hype for the last leg of the TC is much bigger if a horse has 2 of the 3 already won. NYRA just makes zero effort. That is why they are losing their franchise.
Stronach has virtually no chnace of getting the franchise.
Do you know a lot about NYRA? have you researched it yourself? Or are you just listening to someone supporting the Empire group? I'm wondering how much time you have spent around NYRA tracks and how you formed the opinion on them. What are your thoughts on what they have done wrong or right? Your thoughts.
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Old 06-09-2006, 12:45 PM
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Stronach has virtually no chnace of getting the franchise.
Do you know a lot about NYRA? have you researched it yourself? Or are you just listening to someone supporting the Empire group? I'm wondering how much time you have spent around NYRA tracks and how you formed the opinion on them. What are your thoughts on what they have done wrong or right? Your thoughts.
Bill Clinton is now involved with the Stronach group and with Elliot Spitzer as NY's next governor, you can be 100% sure that they will get the franchise. Spitzer is delusional and thinks he is going to be president one day.
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Old 06-09-2006, 12:50 PM
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Bill Clinton is now involved with the Stronach group and with Elliot Spitzer as NY's next governor, you can be 100% sure that they will get the franchise. Spitzer is delusional and thinks he is going to be president one day.

Exceller you are about two years behiind the Clinton thing, for real. hes been with them for over two years. And Spitzer doesnt have the whole say. fact is, they own the land. They have 50 years of property tax bills to prove it. Some pretty shrewd legal minds have examined this and precedent tried and true in these land ownership matters is that they guys who pay teh property tax own the land. Imagine if the state had to repay 50 years of property tax with compounding interest? How many billions would that be?
In the end that dispute will cause Nyra to retain the franchise in a new structure, bringing in a gaming company to run the slots.
Lemme give you another little hint about politicos, there is nothing they like better than influence and control. They sell the franchise rights to a private interest group, and they no longer have any control over NY racing. Like THATS gonna happen.
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Old 06-09-2006, 12:58 PM
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Exceller you are about two years behiind the Clinton thing, for real. hes been with them for over two years. And Spitzer doesnt have the whole say. fact is, they own the land. They have 50 years of property tax bills to prove it. Some pretty shrewd legal minds have examined this and precedent tried and true in these land ownership matters is that they guys who pay teh property tax own the land. Imagine if the state had to repay 50 years of property tax with compounding interest? How many billions would that be?
In the end that dispute will cause Nyra to retain the franchise in a new structure, bringing in a gaming company to run the slots.
Lemme give you another little hint about politicos, there is nothing they like better than influence and control. They sell the franchise rights to a private interest group, and they no longer have any control over NY racing. Like THATS gonna happen.
Clinton has been with them for two years but NYRA had the contract. That contract is now just about up. That franchise is gone. 100% positive on that. Both NY Senators are now in with the Stronach people and the incoming governor wants Stronach to get it. Private business always wins out. The issue now is just the price they have to pay and what cut the state is going to keep of the slots. THEY DO NOT OWN THE LAND EITHER. The legislature says the state owns the land and I have a feeling the taxpayers are going to say the government owns the land too. BYE BYE NYRA. It is about time that corrupt group hit the road.
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