Trainers Love the New Track at Hollywood

[repent]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Never take anything Repent says seriously. He just likes to get people riled up. He says things that are so absurd that there is no rhyme or reason to most of it. He had a beautiful quote just yesterday. He said that The Tin Man has no chance in the BC turf because the horse ran lousy in the BC Turf back in 2003 and he was a better horse back then. In 2003, he went into the race off a 7th place finish in the Arlington Million and a 6th place finish in the Jim Murray. This year the horse goes into the race off a win in the Arlington Million and a win in the American Handicap. The horse has made $2 million this year. In 2003, the horse made about $200,000. Yet Repent says the horse was better in 2003. LOL.

If you are looking for logic in his posts, you are out of luck.

WRONG

you are misquoting me dude.

I never mentioned the year 2003.

I said he had been better in the past and been beaten in the BC Turf.
anyone with any historical knowledge of US turf racing knows the he was in better form in 2002.
won the American Handicap and the Hirsch Memorial that year.
was allowed to set slow fractions in the BC Turf at Arlington and still could only manage a 4th place finish in a somewhat weak running of the race.

and now you think he is going to run with horses like Hurrican Run, Cacique and English Channel?

you are out of your mind.

if you are going to quote me, at least be accurate.


Repent

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by repent

WRONG

you are misquoting me dude.

I never mentioned the year 2003.

I said he had been better in the past and been beaten in the BC Turf.
anyone with any historical knowledge of US turf racing knows the he was in better form in 2002.
won the American Handicap and the Hirsch Memorial that year.
was allowed to set slow fractions in the BC Turf at Arlington and still could only manage a 4th place finish in a somewhat weak running of the race.

and now you think he is going to run with horses like Hurrican Run, Cacique and English Channel?

you are out of your mind.

if you are going to quote me, at least be accurate.


Repent

I thought you were talking about the last time he ran in the BC Turf which was in 2003. Now I realize you were talking about 2002. Fair enough.

I still don't think it's logical to handicap the horse based on what he did 4 year ago. I think what he's done this year is a little more relevant. He's run 5 times this year and he's won 4 out of 5. His only lost was his 2nd place finish in the $5 million Dubai race to David Junior. I think he is coming into the race this year with pretty good credentials running 2nd in that $5 million race and winning the Arlington Million.

I'm not saying he's going to win the race this year, but he is ceratinly a legitimate contender. He's the best turf horse in the country right now. I do think he's probably a little better horse at 1 1/4 miles.

[repent]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I thought you were talking about the last time he ran in the BC Turf which was in 2003. Now I realize you were talking about 2002. Fair enough.

I still don't think it's logical to handicap the horse based on what he did 4 year ago. I think what he's done this year is a little more relevant. He's run 5 times this year and he's won 4 out of 5. His only lost was his 2nd place finish in the $5 million Dubai race to David Junior. I think he is coming into the race this year with pretty good credentials running 2nd in that $5 million race and winning the Arlington Million.

I'm not saying he's going to win the race this year, but he is ceratinly a legitimate contender. He's the best turf horse in the country right now. I do think he's probably a little better horse at 1 1/4 miles.

Im not saying what he did 3 or 4 years ago is a handicapping tool,
Im just saying he was a better horse in the past and lost in what was a weaker field with easier circumstances than what he will face on Nov 4 at CD.

hes not all that great at 12 and the race in Dubai was barely over a mile.

if you are impressed by that Arl Million race, then good luck to you.
those were just plain stupid fractions.



Repent

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by repent

those were just plain stupid fractions.



Repent

that's true...but i can never forget war emblems preakness. everyone knew what he had done to win the derby...and then they watched him go out and do it again in md. ooops.

thing is, tin man could easily do it again. run him down early, wear him out, and you might find yourself backing up as well late.

[repent]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

that's true...but i can never forget war emblems preakness. everyone knew what he had done to win the derby...and then they watched him go out and do it again in md. ooops.

thing is, tin man could easily do it again. run him down early, wear him out, and you might find yourself backing up as well late.

yeah,
but this kind of goes back to my 2002 point.

he set those slow fractions at Arlington.
and still lost to horses that are not near as good as what he will face on Nov 4 at CD.

High Chaparral was the only real international Grade 1 horse in that field.
With Anticipation was just the best of a bad US bunch.

Repent

[Cannon Shell]

Does English Channel own a victory at 12 furlongs?

[repent]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Does English Channel own a victory at 12 furlongs?

no,
barely lost to Shakes at Belmont last year in the Turf Invite at 12f and ran the best race out of US horses in the BCT.

won at 11f at Monmouth.

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