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Old 01-01-2010, 11:23 PM
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Cheney should just shut his face at this point



Or maybe he just enjoys continually making an ass out of himself in public...
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Old 01-02-2010, 01:09 AM
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Cheney speaks the truth, sometimes it hurts but it needed to be said. The Obama administrations whole approach is to treat all of these incidents as isolated loners, not connected to any wider conspiracy. they seem to not have a coherent strategy other than to downplay every event and then blame Bush.
this is what happens when you elect an inexperienced self-absorbed president in training wheels who appoints similar incompetent people to key positions.

they have now got a major problem on their hands that they've divulged all the info about the CIA deaths to the public. believe it or not the CIA likes to operate in a clandestine manner. another big win for al qaeda and a bigger recruiting tool than gitmo ever was.
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Old 01-02-2010, 03:27 PM
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Cheney speaks the truth, sometimes it hurts but it needed to be said. The Obama administrations whole approach is to treat all of these incidents as isolated loners, not connected to any wider conspiracy. they seem to not have a coherent strategy other than to downplay every event and then blame Bush..
What particular, "every events then blame Bush" are you talking about? "all these incidents" - please, tell the specific incidents you are referring to, show us where this administration came out that the people in question were loners? Or blamed Bush for them?

Because the killing and capture of terrorists I listed doesn't fall into the parameters of your assertions in the least. Neither does anything I've seen this administration do to date. So you'll have to be specific and point it out.

The Obama administration is doing exactly what was promised regarding changing the Bush strategy (was there one?) of pursuing terrorists, and doing it aggressively and with results. They are targeting specifically Al Quaeda - and doing what is needed: getting out of the quagmire of Iraq (why are we there again?), increasing pursuit of specific Al Quaeda where they are, in Afghanistan & Pakistan (using unmanned drones and manned missions), Somalia, and keeping an eye on Yemen.

He's already had better results than Bush has in the past five years. You, too, are free to show that my assertion is wrong with some facts.

BTW, Dick Cheney is a cold-blooded liar, a torturer, and showed no respect for our Constitution.
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Old 01-02-2010, 04:37 PM
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What particular, "every events then blame Bush" are you talking about? "all these incidents" - please, tell the specific incidents you are referring to, show us where this administration came out that the people in question were loners? Or blamed Bush for them?

Because the killing and capture of terrorists I listed doesn't fall into the parameters of your assertions in the least. Neither does anything I've seen this administration do to date. So you'll have to be specific and point it out.

The Obama administration is doing exactly what was promised regarding changing the Bush strategy (was there one?) of pursuing terrorists, and doing it aggressively and with results. They are targeting specifically Al Quaeda - and doing what is needed: getting out of the quagmire of Iraq (why are we there again?), increasing pursuit of specific Al Quaeda where they are, in Afghanistan & Pakistan (using unmanned drones and manned missions), Somalia, and keeping an eye on Yemen.

He's already had better results than Bush has in the past five years. You, too, are free to show that my assertion is wrong with some facts.

BTW, Dick Cheney is a cold-blooded liar, a torturer, and showed no respect for our Constitution.
Do you have some high level security clearance? If you don't your assertions are complete fabrications. Why we have to "prove" your made up stories are false is ridiclous. You should provide some real evidence that backs your claims, not just a few links to a couple of news stories about drones killing some guy in Pakistan. If your assertions were true than it should be easy to prove. I'm sure the WH would love to be bragging about all these victories in the War on terror yet they seem to be pretty quiet except defending themselves from the recent security screwups. You used to at least provide flawed or misleading data (or WH press releases) as evidence. now you just throw **** against the wall and dare us to disagree.
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:05 PM
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Do you have some high level security clearance? If you don't your assertions are complete fabrications..
LOL. No, Chuck, I am talking about exactly what I posted, Obama's public record of success going after Al Quaeda in multiple countries, and domestic terrorists. He's done a good job for just his first year.

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What did he do? Hit him over the head repeatedly with the bully pulpit?

I didnt know Obama was personally knocking guys off. Wow. Didn't think he had it in him...
Yeah, our guys are just in Yemen, Africa, Pakistan on their own, not under any orders from the current President of the United States to seek out certain AQ terrorists and kill them.
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Old 01-02-2010, 07:16 PM
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LOL. No, Chuck, I am talking about exactly what I posted, Obama's public record of success going after Al Quaeda in multiple countries, and domestic terrorists. He's done a good job for just his first year.



Yeah, our guys are just in Yemen, Africa, Pakistan on their own, not under any orders from the current President of the United States to seek out certain AQ terrorists and kill them.
What makes you believe that Obama has done such a bangup job? What exactly has changed and how would you really know anyway?
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What makes you believe that Obama has done such a bangup job?
As I said, things like aggressively pursuing and taking out very important AQ in Somalia, Pakistan, etc.

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What exactly has changed and how would you really know anyway?
Just going by what's public knowledge. Where Bush pursed AQ and how, versus where Obama is pursuing AQ, and how.
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