Modification of Geneva Conventions

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

What do you dislike about her voting record, Rupert? Her vote for the PATRIOT Act? Her vote giving Bush authority to use force in Iraq? I hate both of those, too.

Or is it the amendment she tried to put on the port security bill to provide $2 billion to sick 9/11 responders? But then, for right-wingers, people are on their own, so it's just tough that they're getting ill now after working down there in air the gov't told them was safe, right? Well, that's how the Republicans see it; they shot down the amendment.

Or is it that the two major NYC Firefighters' unions announced their support for her re-election in April (before the primaries, even)? They didn't endorse her in 2000, but she's worked very hard for them since 9/11. The president of the Uniformed FIrefighters said, "Firefighters are skeptical of everybody," he said. "In general, politicians have to win our support, and she has done that."

I'm curious as to how familiar you are with her voting record-- she's quite hawkish on defense, which I think is something that usually appeals to you, yes? Is your dislike based on her record or based on what you hear about her? Because in the end, how they vote is the only thing that really affects us.

I don't buy the "carpetbagger," "riding on her husband's coattails," blah blah blah stuff as justification because in the end, if she's doing a good job, which I think she is, that's what matters to me. Bloomberg more or less bought the mayorship of NYC, and you know what? He's doing a pretty darn good job. So what is it about her voting record that you don't like, Rupert?

I actually think you're right. I think she has done a decent job as Senator. I was referring more to her character. DTS was saying to never trust "thieves".

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I actually think you're right. I think she has done a decent job as Senator. I was referring more to her character. DTS was saying to never trust "thieves".

Rupert,
So nice to see that you and I agree again.
Hillary has to do some 'splainin' ( as Little Richard would sing...Wooo!).
On a side note, I really don't trust any of 'em.
They're pretty obvious.
Not pretty.
Just obvious.

[timmgirvan]

Keith is the biggest twit on any stage! If he had the formula for gold...I wouldn't trust him or believe him! Total Whack-job! I still like you,GR!

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Keith is the biggest twit on any stage! If he had the formula for gold...I wouldn't trust him or believe him! Total Whack-job! I still like you,GR!

Timm, we can disagree; I still like you, too.

But this torture thing is wrong, wrong, wrong. It's never okay. Never. Didn't work in the Spanish Inquisition, didn't work in Salem in 1692 and isn't going to work now. It's wrong.

I find it verrrrry interesting this "compromise" BS on torture goes through the Friday before the Monday in which the released prisoners will finally tell their stories to the Red Cross. Methinks the Bush cabal is trying to avoid getting indicted by changing the law before the prisoners get to tell their stories. But we'll see on Monday.

And it once again shows me McCain is a total political animal and will do anything to be the candidate in '08. I'm quite disappointed, but not surprised.

[timmgirvan]

I am against torture for tortures' sake? Where's JACK BAUER when you need him? I'm OK with truth serums....not necessarily the psychosis-inducing ones tho!

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Keith is the biggest twit on any stage! If he had the formula for gold...I wouldn't trust him or believe him! Total Whack-job! I still like you,GR!

Olbermann is the only legitimately sane voice on television right now. The immorality of the twits running our government right now so overwhelms the immorality of the twits running the previous administration it is hard to believe this is still the United States of America. It is unfathomable that the congress, so entranced with morality of the last administration to push for impeachment isn't doing the same thing right now. There is a heckuva lot more to morality than what you do with your penis. Morality covers lots of things other than the exact location of your penis. Ahh...that duplicitous Congress...what can we do with them!!!!

[timmgirvan]

Olbermann sane? Yeah, he's so believable he has 1% of the audience!

[Downthestretch55]

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0928-20.htm

Sorry Timm, I couldn't resist.
Molly's got it right.
Read it first, crap your pants later.

[timmgirvan]

DTS: I read the link but I'm not sure what you wanted me to see. I've stated in a previous thread that I'm against torture,and that I don't consider truth serum to be torture. I'll wait for a reponse from you before I comment further.