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09-21-2006, 12:24 PM
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My picks would be 1) Donn Handicap 2) The Big Cap 3) Stephen Foster 
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09-21-2006, 12:42 PM
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Whitney Jockey Club Gold Cup
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09-21-2006, 12:54 PM
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NYRA can have their own triple crown, but they will still get 10,000 people at any race at Belmont.
the only thing they can do today is put up a big bonus, but trainers today will never run their top older horses every 3-4 weeks. if you put more time than that between races, the triple crown loses all appeal. the Breeders Cup Classic has made an older horse triple crown pointless. the way tracks are owned today also makes it impossible. why would any owner/trainer run in such an event with a great horse when they can pick and choose their spots? remember it is all about breeding, and they want grade 1 wins, not some triple crown. the smart guys would always go the easier route. Why do you think Pletcher is so good. he knows how to pick his spots.=
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09-21-2006, 02:11 PM
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09-21-2006, 01:13 PM
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I'll go with that. Now, a question... Could there be a TC for turfers? Like a nice one at Toga, one at Fall Belmont, and one at another track?
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09-21-2006, 01:27 PM
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Ther are a lot of races that could be included in a handicap triple crown, others have documented the history so I'll stick to the present. First you have to decide whether you want to pattern the series after the Euro version thereby having the races spaced throughout a season or the US...three within a short period! Do you want it to be international? Throw a grass race in like Canada?
If I could have a dream series, I'd go: Dubai World Cup Pacific Classic BCC of course, with turf: DWC Arc BCC Then again: DWC BCC Japan Cup Or, more traditionally: Big Cap Pimlico Special (if MD can come up with the bucks) BCC
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09-21-2006, 01:41 PM
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Donn Handicap Santa Anita Handicap Pimlico Special Handicap Stephen Foster Handicap Suburban Handicap Hollywood Gold Cup Handicap Whitney Handicap Pacific Classic Stakes Woodward Stakes Jockey Club Gold Cup Each of those ten races are worth 10-7-5-3-1 for the top five finishers. The series culminates with the BC Classic which is worth double points. So you could still win an Eclipse Award off of four races but it would be a lot tougher.
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09-21-2006, 01:45 PM
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09-21-2006, 02:27 PM
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I'd go with the:
Forego JCGC BC Turf This would test the horses at three different distances on three different tracks on both surfaces. I know that nobody in the world would go for this idea except for me but I think it would be fun. With the exception of one of the sprint race, Canada has an idea similar to this. I guess for a more traditional idea, I'd go with another idea. The first race would be a newly created 8f race to be held in early July at either Hollywood or Belmont. It would change locations each year, depending on where the BC was going to be in that year. For example, if the BC was held at Santa Anita, the first race would be at Belmont. If the BC was held at Belmont, the first race would be at Hollywood. If the BC wasn't being held at either track, the race would still rotate between the two. The second race would be the Woodward. The final race would be the BC Classic. This would allow for a progression in distances from 8f to 10f which would mean a horse would have to have some versatility, allow three different tracks to host the races, and culminate with the biggest race of the year as part of the equation. It would also allow time for horses to run in other races between the TC races.
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09-21-2006, 02:21 PM
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09-21-2006, 02:29 PM
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
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09-21-2006, 02:41 PM
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"In sports there are just two Opening Days, the Opening Day of Baseball and Opeining Day of Saratoga, all the rest are just season openers"
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09-21-2006, 02:14 PM
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[quote=Downthestretch55]Sniper,
I'll go with that. Now, a question... Could there be a TC for turfers? Like a nice one at Toga, one at Fall Belmont, and one at another track?[/QUOTE How about the Sword Dancer, the Turf Classic at Belmont and The Arlington Million. These Sword Dance and the Arlington Million would have to be separted but to me those are the best Turf Races
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09-21-2006, 02:17 PM
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Those sound like good ones. I'm sure others will chime in. DTS
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09-21-2006, 12:52 PM
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okay, subsitute whitney for he jcgc
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