Healthcare reform

Riot · #1 11-30-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

Healthcare reform is NOT cost effective period. And Gov healthcare will be a nightmare. Unless of course you love waiting in lines, paying more taxes, burdening small businesses or know a 'guy' in the system.

Maybe for you.

As for me, I'll be keeping my own current (becoming less expensive) insurance, and my own current doctors, hospitals. No lines for me. No need to "know" anyone in the system.

No change for me, except less expensive and my insurance company won't be able to exclude pre-existing conditions on me or suddenly rescind my insurance just because I make a claim.

My taxes won't go up to cover it as the bill won't be signed into law on that basis.

My friends with small businesses will be able to finally afford reasonably-priced health insurance for their employees. Geesh, that used to cost me alot of money, for few employees, when I had my own business.

Can't wait, too bad it won't happen for a couple years (unless states go ahead and implement their choice to start things early)

SOREHOOF · #2 11-30-2009, 03:03 PM

The increased taxes will start immediatly. The program won't start for a few years. How would you like to buy a car and have the dealer tell you that you can pick it up in 3 years, after you've been making the payments? Meanwhile other people have been driving it.

Cannon Shell · #3 11-30-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

The increased taxes will start immediatly. The program won't start for a few years. How would you like to buy a car and have the dealer tell you that you can pick it up in 3 years, after you've been making the payments? Meanwhile other people have been driving it.

And in 8 years after all the surplus built up from 4 years of revenue with no output is long gone, hello massive increases in taxes.

Riot · #4 11-30-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

The increased taxes will start immediatly. The program won't start for a few years. How would you like to buy a car and have the dealer tell you that you can pick it up in 3 years, after you've been making the payments? Meanwhile other people have been driving it.

You are assuming there will be increased taxes. Not a bad assumption when looking at government programs, I agree.

But I'll wait to see if it holds true that the CBO says this will not require tax increases to pay for it, and if Obama holds true when he said he wouldn't sign it into law if taxes had to be increased to pay for it.

SOREHOOF · #5 11-30-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

You are assuming there will be increased taxes. Not a bad assumption when looking at government programs, I agree.

But I'll wait to see if it holds true that the CBO says this will not require tax increases to pay for it, and if Obama holds true when he said he wouldn't sign it into law if taxes had to be increased to pay for it.

You are assuming there won't be?

Riot · #6 11-30-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

You are assuming there won't be?

I am assuming:

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Riot wrote:

You are assuming there will be increased taxes. Not a bad assumption when looking at government programs, I agree.

But I'll wait to see if it holds true that the CBO says this will not require tax increases to pay for it, and if Obama holds true when he said he wouldn't sign it into law if taxes had to be increased to pay for it.

Cannon Shell · #7 11-30-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

You are assuming there will be increased taxes. Not a bad assumption when looking at government programs, I agree.

But I'll wait to see if it holds true that the CBO says this will not require tax increases to pay for it, and if Obama holds true when he said he wouldn't sign it into law if taxes had to be increased to pay for it.