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Old 11-27-2009, 11:57 PM
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Lol … did the "new owner" conveniently forget about the race she won at Keeneland, spencer?

The guy made a BUSH-LEAGUE call to skip the championship event and I'd love to see it bite him in the ass.


And yeah, she can get 10 panels … hell, any horse can run that far. Question is … could she get the classic distance with a high-quality router like Z breathing down her throat in the lane?

HIGHLY unlikely, in my estimation…
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Old 11-28-2009, 12:24 AM
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Cigar won a turf race or maybe two. Doesn't mean it was the right surface for him though. No one ever penalized Cigar for being only a dirt horse.
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Old 11-28-2009, 09:55 AM
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Lol … did the "new owner" conveniently forget about the race she won at Keeneland, spencer?

The guy made a BUSH-LEAGUE call to skip the championship event and I'd love to see it bite him in the ass.


And yeah, she can get 10 panels … hell, any horse can run that far. Question is … could she get the classic distance with a high-quality router like Z breathing down her throat in the lane?

HIGHLY unlikely, in my estimation…
Do you pay even the minimum amount of attention to understand that not every synthetic surface operates the same, Smooth?

I'd be more than willing to take a frontrunner to Keeneland under the right circumstances...why anyone would take one to Santa Anita is beyond me.

The guy made a perfect call given his runner's style and affinity for a certain surface, and the fact that he decided to skip the BC has no more bearing on his charge's talents than does the fact that they skipped the Beverly D. on the lawn this summer. More succinctly, he wants his dirt horse to run on dirt...where dirt horses run. Not on the turf, not on Pro-Ride, which plays just like turf and nothing like dirt, which is why you saw the best Grade I turf field assembled all year for the biggest "dirt" race of the year. Please.
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:27 AM
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The guy made a perfect call given his runner's style and affinity for a certain surface, and the fact that he decided to skip the BC has no more bearing on his charge's talents than does the fact that they skipped the Beverly D. on the lawn this summer.
no effect on talent correct, but maybe should have an affect on an Eclipse Award?

Totally agree with this statement, though he played a little gamble when it came to the Eclipse Awards. He skipped the championship event and gambled that Zenyatta would not be good enough to win the classic (and lets face it just about ever pro capper was on his side on that call).

Now its a closer race. No way a east coast horse does not get the edge here, the media is in the east so that will be way to much for Zenyatta to overcome in a ballot deal.
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:38 AM
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Rachel's easing back into training. Let's play a game of 'spot the amusing typo' shall we? http://www.ntra.com/content.aspx?type=news&id=43558

What's the timeline for HOY ballots going out and being due? I know somebody said the deadline awhile back but I can't remember.
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:04 AM
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Is it fair to say that the Clark supports Zenyatta's case a litte bit? Just a little bit?
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:41 AM
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Is it fair to say that the Clark supports Zenyatta's case a litte bit? Just a little bit?
How? Einstein threw in a spectacular clunker at SA. It's hardly indicative of the quality of that field, and it says more that he's a better horse than he showed in the BCC.
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Old 11-28-2009, 12:48 PM
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How? Einstein threw in a spectacular clunker at SA. It's hardly indicative of the quality of that field, and it says more that he's a better horse than he showed in the BCC.
Okay, but what does this race say about those horses that were in the woodward?
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Lol … did the "new owner" conveniently forget about the race she won at Keeneland, spencer?

The guy made a BUSH-LEAGUE call to skip the championship event and I'd love to see it bite him in the ass.


And yeah, she can get 10 panels … hell, any horse can run that far. Question is … could she get the classic distance with a high-quality router like Z breathing down her throat in the lane?

HIGHLY unlikely, in my estimation…
It's amusing to me why anyone would believe anything that comes out of the mouth of Jess Jackson, using that argument that just because the owner says a horse won't race in the Championships because of reasons for only he knows is a nonsensical argument, especially when one comes looking for year end honors. The fact is one horse was there and one wasn't, if you have the best horse racing or one that many claim to be, you better show up and defend your honor, no excuses, just race baby...Decide it on the track, Zenyatta did and she gets big props for doing so. She did, RA may have. I will go with DID everyday of the week rather than, coulda or woulda...

Good post.
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