Churchill to offer 50 cent Tri's and P3's

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

It's a bad idea for pick 3's.

Disagree- helps avoid tax tickets. Pool sweepers would be the only prices that might get dampened, and even that I'm not sure about. Lower minimums benefit the player greatly.

[rstp354]

Originally Posted by philcski

Disagree- helps avoid tax tickets. Pool sweepers would be the only prices that might get dampened, and even that I'm not sure about. Lower minimums benefit the player greatly.

I agree - for example, when Supers were a $1 minimum I hardly ever played them...now that they are 10 cent minimum I play them. I would play more pick 3's and pick 4's if the minimum bet was less. And they also help to avoid "signers". All exotic bets should be a 10 cent minimum IMO.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by rstp354

I agree - for example, when Supers were a $1 minimum I hardly ever played them...now that they are 10 cent minimum I play them. I would play more pick 3's and pick 4's if the minimum bet was less. And they also help to avoid "signers". All exotic bets should be a 10 cent minimum IMO.

It's still very easy to have a dime super that is a signer....thank goodness there are plenty of ten percent cashers at the track.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

It's still very easy to have a dime super that is a signer....thank goodness there are plenty of ten percent cashers at the track.

This couldn't be more wrong

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Scav

This couldn't be more wrong

I've had one each of the last two times I have been to the track.
Are you saying Im really that good?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

I've had one each of the last two times I have been to the track.
Are you saying Im really that good?

I am saying that you don't understand what you are saying because it is really really wrong.

$1 Super signer = $600
.10 Super Signer = $600 = $6,000 per $1

6000 versus 600

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Scav

I am saying that you don't understand what you are saying because it is really really wrong.

$1 Super signer = $600
.10 Super Signer = $600 = $6,000 per $1

6000 versus 600

Yeah, it's tougher, but it happens. A number of BC superfectas were signers for a dime.

NT

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Scav

This couldn't be more wrong

I agree. Play plenty of dime supers and have had 2-3 signers in my life. Majority of hits in the $50-$100 range.

Originally Posted by philcski

Disagree- helps avoid tax tickets. Pool sweepers would be the only prices that might get dampened, and even that I'm not sure about. Lower minimums benefit the player greatly.

I just feel that it will be a temporary boost to the pools that could result in a decline once the regular pick 3 players figure out their returns are being cut by bottom feeders.

You're the math wiz though. It just seems like there would be a few more winners.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I just feel that it will be a temporary boost to the pools that could result in a decline once the regular pick 3 players figure out their returns are being cut by bottom feeders.

You're the math wiz though. It just seems like there would be a few more winners.

Someone did a study on .50 cent pick 4's versus $1 pick 4's comparing the payoffs with respect to the parlay value. I can't remember where I saw it but I think it was on horseplayerdaily.com, and essentially the result was the chalkiest of pick 4's paid slightly more than they would have with a $1 minimum and medium-high payoffs (something like $600-$2,500 for a buck) paid slightly less. This result makes sense IMO- people play more combinations so the formerly overbet chalky combinations that everyone have get a boost and the combinations including perhaps one outlier which can now be covered with a lower budget drop slightly. I'd guess this study would translate to pick 3's as well.