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Old 11-10-2009, 02:42 PM
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Old 11-10-2009, 04:01 PM
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Old 11-10-2009, 04:14 PM
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A racing award that is voted upon, instead of presented to the winner of the year end championship race, is silly. And only lends itself to being a political issue.
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A racing award that is voted upon, instead of presented to the winner of the year end championship race, is silly. And only lends itself to being a political issue.
What's the year-end championship race?

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Old 11-10-2009, 04:21 PM
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That was a hypothetical...

but I believe this was the initial idea of why the BC was born. Where it has gone since... well.. yea.
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Old 11-10-2009, 04:20 PM
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A racing award that is voted upon, instead of presented to the winner of the year end championship race, is silly. And only lends itself to being a political issue.

so a horse like Secretariat.. races and wins all year.. gets hurt or skips the BC & Volponi wins the BC Classic.

Yes, Volponi should be the HOY.. anyone voting for Secretariat would just be, silly.
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Old 11-10-2009, 04:25 PM
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so a horse like Secretariat.. races and wins all year.. gets hurt or skips the BC & Volponi wins the BC Classic.

Yes, Volponi should be the HOY.. anyone voting for Secretariat would just be, silly.
I knew someone would run with a horse injury analogy..


How about an analogy of my own? What if Michael Phelps wins every meet he enters for 3.5 years but then cannot enter the Olympics due to injury, should he be given the Gold medal(s)..? He is clearly the best...

There are winners and losers in every aspect, but in the least knowing as a trainer/owner/jockey that you must WIN this race at the end of the year to earn the award is black and white. Not gray all over like it is currently...
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Is there a swimmer of the year award given annually? I think swimming might be the only sport ESPN might pre-empt for horse racing.
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Old 11-10-2009, 05:07 PM
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Is there a swimmer of the year award given annually? I think swimming might be the only sport ESPN might pre-empt for horse racing.
I'm sure they do, everything has a year end award for some reason or another...
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Old 11-10-2009, 04:31 PM
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I knew someone would run with a horse injury analogy..


How about an analogy of my own? What if Michael Phelps wins every meet he enters for 3.5 years but then cannot enter the Olympics due to injury, should he be given the Gold medal(s)..? He is clearly the best...

There are winners and losers in every aspect, but in the least knowing as a trainer/owner/jockey that you must WIN this race at the end of the year to earn the award is black and white. Not gray all over like it is currently...

The Phelps thing is apples and oranges. More like apples and pillows, cause oranges are at least still a fruit.

You have to compete in the Olympics to win a medal (obviously)

YEAR end awards in Horse Racing represent a body of work for a YEAR.. its not Breeders Cup Champion of the Year... its the Horse of the Year.

Also, would they have had Olympic swimming being competed on pavement?
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Also, would they have had Olympic swimming being competed on pavement?
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Old 11-10-2009, 05:06 PM
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The Phelps thing is apples and oranges. More like apples and pillows, cause oranges are at least still a fruit.

You have to compete in the Olympics to win a medal (obviously)

YEAR end awards in Horse Racing represent a body of work for a YEAR.. its not Breeders Cup Champion of the Year... its the Horse of the Year.

Also, would they have had Olympic swimming being competed on pavement?
I understand your points... what I am saying is, its obvious the BC purses aren't attractive enough to bring out ALL the talent. Excuses are made for shipping, racing surfaces, weather, footing, etc..

So maybe a slight change to how the awards are given away is in order...?
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