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Old 11-04-2009, 01:58 PM
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How you think Zenyatta is a more likely winner than Ventura I will never know.
Ventura did lose a race to one of her top competitors in this race didn't she?
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:54 PM
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Ventura did lose a race to one of her top competitors in this race didn't she?
Thats only because Ventura has run against top fields her whole career. She hasnt been ducking anybody. Look at those horses shes beaten and barely lost to. Gio Ponti beat her by a hair. If she ran against the crap Zenyatta has, she'd be undefeated too.

Hows the jump shot?
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Old 11-04-2009, 03:20 PM
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Thats only because Ventura has run against top fields her whole career. She hasnt been ducking anybody. Look at those horses shes beaten and barely lost to. Gio Ponti beat her by a hair. If she ran against the crap Zenyatta has, she'd be undefeated too.

Hows the jump shot?
I'm not saying Ventura is not a single. I think she is. I didn't even mention how Zenyatta has never lost. But she's still facing a horse that's beaten her so that factors into my feelings.
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Old 11-04-2009, 03:29 PM
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Ventura did lose a race to one of her top competitors in this race didn't she?
Yes, but she is also the most likely winner of the race she is entered in.
Zenyatta strikes me as about a 10/1 - 15/1 shot here. I doubt if she hits the board.
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Old 11-04-2009, 03:31 PM
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Yes, but she is also the most likely winner of the race she is entered in.
Zenyatta strikes me as about a 10/1 - 15/1 shot here. I doubt if she hits the board.
That's the great thing about racing. I think Zenyatta has no trouble here and if I were betting, anything over 2/1, I'd be thrilled with. We'll find out this weekend.
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Old 11-04-2009, 03:34 PM
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That's the great thing about racing. I think Zenyatta has no trouble here and if I were betting, anything over 2/1, I'd be thrilled with. We'll find out this weekend.
I think you'll get every bit of 2/1 and then some. Maybe 7/2. You should be mixing some jump shot practice in with your handicapping. Dont let something that rare go.
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Old 11-04-2009, 03:38 PM
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I think you'll get every bit of 2/1 and then some. Maybe 7/2. You should be mixing some jump shot practice in with your handicapping. Dont let something that rare go.
It won't matter if she's 3/5 or 35/1. I've vowed to never bet another dime on a synthetic track race again. I just don't see her losing and I only see one other horse that can possibly win and he's 50/50 to not like the track and has these foot issues.

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Old 11-04-2009, 03:48 PM
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I only see one other horse that can possibly win.
You really think Summer Bird, Gio Ponti, Einstein, Quality Road, and Twice Over have zero chance? Combined?
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:02 PM
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You really think Summer Bird, Gio Ponti, Einstein, Quality Road, and Twice Over have zero chance? Combined?
I just wish I could bet on Field vs Zenyatta + "Rip". Despite my horses having zero chance, I'd be happy to take even money. Thrilled, in fact.

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Old 11-04-2009, 04:05 PM
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You really think Summer Bird, Gio Ponti, Einstein, Quality Road, and Twice Over have zero chance? Combined?
Summer Bird, Einstein, Quality Road, and Twice Over....no. Gio Ponti a slight, slight chance but I think it would take Zenyatta not running her race and Rip not liking the track. If either/both of those things happen, Gio Ponti has no shot either.
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