NYRA bars Mullins for 6 months

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by freddymo

What abourt I want revenge? Oh he has done enough

thats like it that I can remember, I knew I could count on you to bring up the one horse who did ship, nice work.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

thats like it that I can remember, I knew I could count on you to bring up the one horse who did ship, nice work.

Imagine he is going to have to out juice Cannon Ball at Philly Park this winter...Good luck to him

[Cannon Shell]

Three questions
1. Why does the headline read "drug violation" when there was in fact no drug?
2. Why did it take this long to adjudicate the case considering there was no court and Mullins apparently had no legal defense?
3. Why didn't they suspend him for a much longer period of time or even indefinitely since there was no state commissions involved and he clearly had intent to break the rules?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Three questions
1. Why does the headline read "drug violation" when there was in fact no drug?
2. Why did it take this long to adjudicate the case considering there was no court and Mullins apparently had no legal defense?
3. Why didn't they suspend him for a much longer period of time or even indefinitely since there was no state commissions involved and he clearly had intent to break the rules?

mullins doesnt run in NY he cant it isnt the wild wild west region, so who cares it isnt like its Contessa or Jacobsen with a million starters the guy knows his crap doesnt fly in Ny so who really cares

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

mullins doesnt run in NY he cant it isnt the wild wild west region, so who cares it isnt like its Contessa or Jacobsen with a million starters the guy knows his crap doesnt fly in Ny so who really cares

please translate

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

please translate

the guy runs 3 horse a year in NY who cares about him.. If he is smart he will move his tack and juice to delaware park till the slots run dry..

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by freddymo

the guy runs 3 horse a year in NY who cares about him.. If he is smart he will move his tack and juice to delaware park till the slots run dry..

Delaware Park? What about Penn Nat? I'm sure Mullins can get a few to run 55 BSF's.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by freddymo

the guy runs 3 horse a year in NY who cares about him.. If he is smart he will move his tack and juice to delaware park till the slots run dry..

yea, the guy aint baffert, he rarely ships to NY.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

the guy runs 3 horse a year in NY who cares about him.. If he is smart he will move his tack and juice to delaware park till the slots run dry..

I understand that he doesnt run there which is why once again horse racing officials draw us negative attention without really accomplishing much. I really think NYRA dropped the ball here simply by banning a guy for 6 months when he has no intention of running there anyway, though there may be some legalities that we dont know about. If mullins happens on a good three year old he can march right back into the detention barn and run in the Belmont. I'm sure with the state watching over their back NYRA triple checked to make sure they were ok in doing this. But in the grand scheme, was this a positive as presented?

[Cannon Shell]

One other thing, if Mullins sends a horse to NY during this time frame and the owner puts him under the care of someone Mullins has never done business with doesnt that effectively circumvent the rule?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

One other thing, if Mullins sends a horse to NY during this time frame and the owner puts him under the care of someone Mullins has never done business with doesnt that effectively circumvent the rule?

Of course not, why would horse racing ever want to hand down sanctions with teeth.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

1. Why does the headline read "drug violation" when there was in fact no drug?

I suppose it depends on what your definition of "drug" is. According to the rules of racing in New York:

(c) Drug. Any substance or its metabolites which does not exist naturally in the untreated horse and which can have a pharmacological effect on a horse.

The ingredients of Air Power would fit the bill.

In addition, you would have to presume that what Mullins admittedly administered was in fact Air Power. Did they test the horse?

[Riot]

I thought (correct if wrong) that they did go ahead and test the horse, and it came back clean. The violation was violation of the detention barn rules - bringing in the syringe and administering something in the barn.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I suppose it depends on what your definition of "drug" is. According to the rules of racing in New York:

(c) Drug. Any substance or its metabolites which does not exist naturally in the untreated horse and which can have a pharmacological effect on a horse.

The ingredients of Air Power would fit the bill.

In addition, you would have to presume that what Mullins admittedly administered was in fact Air Power. Did they test the horse?

What would air powers pharmacological effect be, if that was actually the substance used since no one seems to know?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What would air powers pharmacological effect be, if that was actually the substance used since no one seems to know?

Ever drank a beer?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Ever drank a beer?

Yes but dont see the correlation

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What would air powers pharmacological effect be, if that was actually the substance used since no one seems to know?

In light of the detention barn rule that he violated, is this question really relevant?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

In light of the detention barn rule that he violated, is this question really relevant?

It isnt relevant in the terms of the violation, just trying to define what a "drug" is.