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View Poll Results: Obama....
He's doing a great job 8 10.96%
He's doing a good job 12 16.44%
He's doing a poor job 23 31.51%
Eric Mangini could do a better a job 14 19.18%
At least he's not Bush 13 17.81%
At least we know he's not a jew 3 4.11%
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:17 AM
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Putting words in my mouth once again.

Those are all commendable professions that have about 1% of the economic impact of small business owners in this country. You know the people who employ the majority of that same working class?

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I'm not putting any words in your mouth. You said that small business owners " basically carry this country" which is of course....one giant load of crap. No one group of people "carries" the rest of the country. Would this country function far differently if all of the small business owners in the country suddenly vanished tomorrow? Well....yeah of course. But the same is true for dozens of other professions. It isn't all about economic impact. But on that particular subject, in my opinion, your sugestion that teachers have minimal econominc impact on the country is taking such a narrow view of what "economic impact" means that it boggles the mind. Do they pay a lot of taxes or employ others? No. Does that mean they don't have a huge effect on the nation's economy? Absolutely not.

As for employing the working class, your argument is that small business owners "carry" the country because they employ the working class. Fine. But the same argument could easily be flipped. The working class carries the small business owners because without laborers and employees, most of those small businesses would fail. Does that mean that working-class people are actually the ones that "carry" the country? I imagine some on the left would say yes to that, while most of those on the right would scoff.
Personally, I don't see any one group of people "carrying" anything.
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:34 AM
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I'm not putting any words in your mouth. You said that small business owners " basically carry this country" which is of course....one giant load of crap. No one group of people "carries" the rest of the country. Would this country function far differently if all of the small business owners in the country suddenly vanished tomorrow? Well....yeah of course. But the same is true for dozens of other professions. It isn't all about economic impact. But on that particular subject, in my opinion, your sugestion that teachers have minimal econominc impact on the country is taking such a narrow view of what "economic impact" means that it boggles the mind. Do they pay a lot of taxes or employ others? No. Does that mean they don't have a huge effect on the nation's economy? Absolutely not.

As for employing the working class, your argument is that small business owners "carry" the country because they employ the working class. Fine. But the same argument could easily be flipped. The working class carries the small business owners because without laborers and employees, most of those small businesses would fail. Does that mean that working-class people are actually the ones that "carry" the country? I imagine some on the left would say yes to that, while most of those on the right would scoff.
Personally, I don't see any one group of people "carrying" anything.
Small business isnt a profession. Your argument is stunningly lame. To argue against the economic imact of small business in the USA is pure folly.
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:38 AM
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To argue against the economic imact of small business in the USA is pure folly.
Where have I disagreed with the statement that small business owners have a tremendous economic impact on the country? They obviously do, and I have never, and will never dispute that.
That doesn't mean that they "basically carry the country" as you so outrageously and naively claimed.
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:46 AM
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Where have I disagreed with the statement that small business owners have a tremendous economic impact on the country? They obviously do, and I have never, and will never dispute that.
That doesn't mean that they "basically carry the country" as you so outrageously and naively claimed.
Prove your point.
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Old 10-28-2009, 12:02 PM
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Prove your point.
You need me to prove the point that there is more to a country than simply employing people and paying taxes?
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Old 10-28-2009, 12:13 PM
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You want me to prove the point that there is more to a country than simply employing people and paying taxes?
http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/busine.../sbatopten.htm
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Old 10-28-2009, 12:15 PM
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Right....as I said, I've never disputed the economic impact of small businesses.
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so they really do "basically carry the country"!
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You need me to prove the point that there is more to a country than simply employing people and paying taxes?
yea there's all of those unemployed and not paying taxes, illegals some of who pay taxes and some who don't and let's not forget all those government workers, both Federal and local including politicians who are paid directly using taxes.
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