Why Lukas went downhill

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I know, imagine, a downhill trainer that trained a champion last year. Who'd a thunk it.

How many stakes has he won this year now that Bob Lewis is gone?

9% winning is not going downhill what in the world are you smokin.

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Not sure, but it's not as if he doesn't still get Lewis's horses. Mrs. Lewis, and his son are running the stable I believe. He is having a horrible year, but fact is he trained a champ last year.

Fact is he ran her into the ground after that, what about that masterfull job of training Going Wild to a combined 128 length whoopin in the '05 Triple Crown and then never even gave the horse a break, if i can recall he put him in an impossible G2 Sprint race.

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I know, your right, he's a bad trainer. His past speaks for itself. Period.

I am right he went downhill

Live in the now man not in the past

even if he still is a good trainer the fact is he stole from his owners and doesn't deserve to have anymore owners buy multi million dollar stock and let him train them.

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You are right, because I'm sure you know all of the facts to speak so surely about it. I was always taught to hear both sides of a story before making a conclusion. I've spoken with him a few times, and he has always been very nice. That's how I judge people. Not on third hand info that I heard on the radio. What you are saying about him and owners could very well be true, but unless you know for sure, seems a little irresponsible on your part to pass judgement.

Just cause he didn't jack your dough doesn't mean he didn't take Padua Stables money, how many horses of theirs does Lukas have?

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Ok then you let jason know not to say things like that considering its horse racings only national broadcast.

http://www.racingjason.com/

then click on Sep 10th and go to the 15 min mark of the show

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Just listened to it, and he says that Sanan has accused Lukas of it. At no point does he say it is a fact like you have presented it. My point is you don't know the facts, and in your usual eloquent way presented them. Fact is Lukas is one of the all time greats.

This is a free country everyone is entitled to their own opinon and considering, you talk to Lukas of course you are gonna be bias. Plus it all makes sense, Your little story about ohh they just thought he might of taken thier money seems a little far out there.

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I have no bias. I have no relationship with him. I said I have spoken with him a few times. Learn how to read. I also didn't have a little story. I merely said there are two sides to everything. He very well could have done it, but YOU don't know for sure, because he has never been convicted of anything. You were presenting it as fact, which you obviously have a issue getting correct.

Learn how to read?

Is that all you got, thats is WEAKER than Lukas Stable this year !!!!

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Just listened to it, and he says that Sanan has accused Lukas of it. At no point does he say it is a fact like you have presented it. My point is you don't know the facts, and in your usual eloquent way presented them. Fact is Lukas is one of the all time greats.

Sounds to me like he was pretty sure it went down, he just has to watch the legal ramifications of being nationally televised.

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

So you know for sure he did right? Because you heard it thirdhand on the radio. He trains the same amount as Baffert does zero. What does that mean?

Considering he has like 10 horses in training and best of the best are in NY how many should he have?

HMMMM who trained champion Vindication?

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Here is a picture of Going Wild after 05 Triple Crown

http://www.forgetfoo.com/images/blog/sam-ugliestdog.jpg

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

That's your style right there. Perfect!!! And the saying you were trying to say is kicking the gift horse in the mouth, not licking.

Can't say I never stole money from padua thats like b i t c h slapping them after he gave him some nice stock

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I was in Lukas' barn this summer and he had about 30 horses. He still has some for Mrs. Lewis including Simon Pure who won a race at SAR.
Those who know nothing of someone's business dealings should not profess knowledge they don't have.

I looked over every horse in the barn and saw many of them train and or race. They hardly looked abused.

DWL changed the business. He has proven to be the greatest "trainer of trainers" the game has ever seen. Pletcher, McLaughlin, Hennig, Maker and others have gone on to success. Those guys didn't get to where they are by watching a moron.

BTW, Going Wild looked great at SAR. He was second to Silver Wagon in a prep for the Forego. They skipped the Forego for an allowance and ran into Discreet Cat. He never had a "serious injury" just some of the same nagging issues that plague most race horses. He's a racehorse for crissakes. On the other thread folks are bemoainign how infrequently horses race and here Wayne's bashed for RACING his RACE HORSES!

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Baffert did, and he no longer trains for him.

And Baffert doesn't train on the East Coast