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Old 10-14-2009, 09:50 AM
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Is this supposed to be negative?

When you are on an island "your words" and you are a very good stallion and there isn't much competition on that island it bloats your success level, especially when your type never come east(why would they?)

You really are the spin dr .. Unusal Heats run in there own backyard against other vermin stallion offspring racking up a bunch of success and you vault him to TREMENDOUS.. Do you really think his type would do nearly as well in open competition? WHOOPS they arent fast enough.. How come Shiek mo hasn't grabbed a superior young phenom turfer or IEAH , lael etc..

Why did Lael buy My Princess Jess after a 76k overnight stake win for reportedly 7 figs.. Where are the examples of major racing concerns spending huge money for such early talented winners?. Every year we see people spending millions for lightly raced huge potential stock.. You know like Dutrows two colts this year Big Brown (a boundary noless) the Golphins from last year.. Where are all these UH's? you know the dynamic Peace Rules(jule) types or War Emblem types or the Lido Palace from last year.. geez I just don't recall this TREMENDOUS stallion producing anything that has ignited someone to step out.. Mind you pedigree is NOT the issue as the horses I listed are D Funnybone types which are long on potential and short on page.

DrugS when you get a minute get the yearling stats and 2 year old in training sales figs posted... I would imagine this stallion has to be American racings best kept secret!!

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Old 10-14-2009, 10:07 AM
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DrugS when you get a minute get the yearling stats and 2 year old in training sales figs posted... I would imagine this stallion has to be American racings best kept secret!!


Unusual Heat actually sold for 250K at Barrett's March 2yo sale.

I don't know what's oddest...

A.) That a horse bought at a 2yo sale in So Cal would go Europe to So Cal.

B.) The dam was bred in Denmark (I can't locate it on a map and I didn't even know they run horses there)

C.) The horse was claimed - was vanned off while winning a claiming race less than 3 weeks later - and eventually became a Cannon Shell adored stallion.

D.) This picture :
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:16 AM
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Unusual Heat actually sold for 250K at Barrett's March 2yo sale.

I don't know what's oddest...

A.) That a horse bought at a 2yo sale in So Cal would go Europe to So Cal.

B.) The dam was bred in Denmark (I can't locate it on a map and I didn't even know they run horses there)

C.) The horse was claimed - was vanned off while winning a claiming race less than 3 weeks later - and eventually became a Cannon Shell adored stallion.

D.) This picture :
These two gals have very famous fathers.. On the right is Crusher Blackwell's daughter on the left is Haystack calhouns youngest daughter. The vertically challenged gentleman with the big smile on his face (who wouldn't be) is Scav the day before his Bar Mitzvah, his mom did get him a nice hair cut and shave before his bigger day..
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:20 AM
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B.) The dam was bred in Denmark (I can't locate it on a map and I didn't even know they run horses there)
Denmark is fabulous, and not just because of the Carlsberg, probably the best beer in the world.
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:23 AM
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Denmark is fabulous, and not just because of the Carlsberg, probably the best beer in the world.
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:35 PM
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B.) The dam was bred in Denmark (I can't locate it on a map and I didn't even know they run horses there)
Too bad for you. As it happens, Unusual Heat's dam was a multiple champion, having won the Oaks in both Sweden and Denmark and beaten the colts to win the Swedish and Danish Derbies and the Danish St. Leger. Yes, in the scheme of things these are at the listed level in Europe, but Rossard(Den) proved she wasn't a fraudulent classic winner by scoring in the Flower Bowl H (G1) in the US.

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C.) The horse was claimed - was vanned off while winning a claiming race less than 3 weeks later - and eventually became a Cannon Shell adored stallion.
Stymie was claimed, for $1500; he went on to lead the US earnings list until Citation came along. Princequillo was claimed; he went on to become a leading dirt stayer, a top sire, and many-time leading broodmare sire. John Henry was claimed; he went on to win G1 races every year from age 5 to 9. Being claimed is not the mark of Cain. And in this case, we aren't talking cheap claimers, either: Claiming $80K or $125 are what tracks wrote for horses who had gone through all of their allowance conditions already, hardly expecting that somebody was going to put up that kind of cash.

Unusual Heat was a stakes-winning horse at 3 and 4 in Ireland with 2 serious problems; he disliked wet turf courses and he hated The Curragh, where most better races are run in Ireland. He was off for a year between his last race in Ireland and his first in the US, so one must hypothesize that something went amiss with him during that time. Oftentimes horses who come back from illness or injury are not as good as they were beforehand, in case you haven't noticed. But their genes are still the same.
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Old 10-16-2009, 07:59 AM
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Too bad for you. As it happens, Unusual Heat's dam was a multiple champion, having won the Oaks in both Sweden and Denmark and beaten the colts to win the Swedish and Danish Derbies and the Danish St. Leger. Yes, in the scheme of things these are at the listed level in Europe, but Rossard(Den) proved she wasn't a fraudulent classic winner by scoring in the Flower Bowl H (G1) in the US.
I knew all of that already. Isn't google swell?



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Stymie was claimed, for $1500; he went on to lead the US earnings list until Citation came along. Princequillo was claimed; he went on to become a leading dirt stayer, a top sire, and many-time leading broodmare sire. John Henry was claimed; he went on to win G1 races every year from age 5 to 9.
I know .... but were any of them vanned off less than 3 weeks after being claimed never to race again?

....?
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Old 10-16-2009, 01:42 PM
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I knew all of that already.
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:00 PM
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How does this topic get 6 pages of replies...?
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Old 10-17-2009, 04:11 PM
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Poor Golden Man. I hope they retire him off of THAT effort. Of course, he is 7 now.
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