Arc watch

CSC · #1 10-02-2009, 09:03 AM

As of this morning,

Arc De Triomphe Odds Comparison(2nd from left is Ladbrokes odds)

Sea The Stars 4/6 4/6 4/6 4/6 4/6 4/6 8/11
Fame And Glory 11/2 11/2 5 11/2 5 11/2 5
Conduit 9 8 7 8 15/2 8 7
Cavalryman 12 12 10 12 12 12 12
Vision DEtat 12 12 12 12 12 12 12
Stacelita 14 14 12 14 14 14 14
Dar Re Mi 20 16 20 22 14 20 20
Youmzain 20 16 20 16 20 20 20
Getaway 25 25 16 25 25 25 25
Beheshtam 33 33 25 28 33 33 33

my miss storm cat · #2 10-02-2009, 09:08 AM

I'm hoping for Sea the Stars / Stacelita / Youmzain

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RP...

Sea The Stars drawn in stall six for Sunday's Arc
By Andrew Scutts10.07AM 2 OCT 2009
SEA THE STARS has been drawn in gate six for the Qatar Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe. Fame And Glory has stall ten and Conduit is drawn 12.

Nineteen runners will go to post for the world's richest turf race at Longchamp on Sunday, after Johann Zoffany was the only absentee at Friday's final declaration stage.

If recent results are anything to go by, connections of Sea The Stars will be delighted with the draw, as two of the last four winners, Dylan Thomas (2007) and Hurricane Run (2005), were victorious in the race from stall six.

The Mick Channon-trained Youmzain, who will race in a visor, has been handed a tricky draw in stall one. Although Zarkava won the Arc from stall one last year, her victory was the first from the lowest draw since Prince Royal in 1964.

Godolphin's Cavalryman also has work to do to overcome the widest draw in 19.

Dar Re Mi, who was disqualified in the Prix Vermeille last month, will race from stall two. The promoted winner of that race, Stacelita, has been drawn 16, which may not be ideal for a filly who likes to race prominently, as the stall numbers go from low against the rail to high on the outside (the opposite to Britain).

The classy Vision D'Etat has a decent draw in nine, while Aidan O'Brien's two pacesetters, Set Sail and Grand Ducal, will race from stalls 14 and five respectively.

Barrier in ( )...

Sunday October 4 2009
Longchamp 15:15

Qatar Prix De L'arc De Triomphe (group 1)
€4120000.00 added, 3yo plus, 1m 3f 204y, €2284540.00 penalty
19 runners
Going: N/A

No. Form Horse Age Wt Trainer Jockey OR NagMe Bet
1 (1) 32-4233 Youmzain (IRE) 28 6 9-5 M R Channon S M Levey SP SP SP
2 (12) 111-231 Conduit (IRE) 71 4 9-5 Sir Michael Stoute R L Moore SP SP SP
3 (9) 15-3112 Vision D'etat (FR) 21 4 9-5 E Libaud O Peslier SP SP SP
4 (17) 03-1135 Magadan (IRE) 98 4 9-5 E Lellouche A Crastus SP SP SP
5 (18) 34-2555 The Bogberry (USA) 28 4 9-5 A de Royer Dupre M Kappushev SP SP SP
6 (7) 243785 Steele Tango (USA) 92 4 9-5 R A Teal D Holland SP SP SP
7 (3) 88-2121 Getaway (GER) 28 6 9-5 J Hirschberger S Pasquier SP SP SP
8 (13) 1334-77 Tullamore (USA) 133 4 9-5 Z Koplik V Janacek SP SP SP
9 (4) 22-1125 Hot Six (BRZ) 63 4 9-4 G Duarte T Pereira SP SP SP
10 (2) 23-2110 Dar Re Mi 21 4 9-2 J H M Gosden J Fortune SP SP SP
11 (11) 349409 Tangaspeed (FR) 21 4 9-2 R Laplanche I Mendizabal SP SP SP
12 (8) 924353 La Boum (GER) 42 6 9-2 Rob collet T Jarnet SP SP SP
13 (15) 11462 Beheshtam (FR) 21 3 8-11 A de Royer Dupre G Mosse SP SP SP
14A (14) 000239 Set Sail (IRE) 29 3 8-11 A P O'Brien S M Levey SP SP SP
15A (10) 1-11212 Fame And Glory 29 3 8-11 A P O'Brien J P Murtagh SP SP SP
16 (19) 1-42111 Cavalryman 21 3 8-11 A Fabre L Dettori SP SP SP
17A (5) 1243-14 Grand Ducal (IRE) 29 3 8-11 A P O'Brien P J Smullen SP SP SP
18 (6) 1-11111 Sea The Stars (IRE) 29 3 8-11 J M Oxx M J Kinane SP SP SP
19 (16) 1-11111 Stacelita (FR) 21 3 8-8 J C Rouget C P Lemaire SP SP SP

CSC · #3 10-02-2009, 09:12 AM

Other than Sea The Stars, tough call who will run big if the big favorite doesn't deliver. Just look at that field, some real nice horses in the world's deepest turf race.

my miss storm cat · #4 10-02-2009, 09:22 AM

Rooting for anyone (else), CSC?

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I'm hoping for Sea the Stars / Stacelita / Youmzain

Oh yeah, and The Bogberry 4th (no, really... even though he's been 5th in his last 3 starts).

Again, rooting interest only.

CSC · #5 10-02-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Rooting for anyone (else), CSC?

Oh yeah, and The Bogberry 4th (no, really... even though he's been 5th in his last 3 starts).

Again, rooting interest only.

If Sea The Stars fails, I do like Cavalryman & Vision DEtat at their odds. Not sure what to make of Fame And Glory who has been beaten by Sea The Stars and it looks like he will be the second choice.

my miss storm cat · #6 10-02-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC

If Sea The Stars fails, I do like Cavalryman & Vision DEtat at their odds. Not sure what to make of Fame And Glory who has been beaten by Sea The Stars and it looks like he will be the second choice.

Awfully nice horse (5 wins, 2 2nds from 7). If I had my head screwed on straight he'd be my 3rd choice (but hey... I've been a Youmzain fan forever and he never wins the big races but he usually hits the board and runs his heart out. Nothing to do with Fallon up although that helps!).

Come home safe, everyone.

Can't wait!

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edit - Okay well since I love this horse, since it's his 3rd Arc and since we all kinda know he probably won't ummm win (and since this might be his last season) I love this and just wanted to post it in incase anyone else wants to read about him or watch his workouts).

A frustrating horse indeed!

http://www.mickchannon.tv/news.php

CSC · #7 10-02-2009, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Awfully nice horse (5 wins, 2 2nds from 7). If I had my head screwed on straight he'd be my 3rd choice (but hey... I've been a Youmzain fan forever and he never wins the big races but he usually hits the board and runs his heart out. Nothing to do with Fallon up although that helps!).

Come home safe, everyone.

Can't wait!

Yes! Youmzain, Dar Re Mi, Conduit, Getaway, Stacelita...when do you get odds like this on these quality horses? Tough race, I'm going to be interested in seeing if Frankie can work out a trip for Cavalryman with his draw, he looks like he has a nice kick down the lane.

brockguy · #8 10-02-2009, 09:47 AM

Tough race to make money esp if you think Sea The Stars rolls. perfectly drawn, perfect ground, he'll have a fast pace and I think he'll beat Fame and Glory by even more than he beat him at Epsom and Leopardstown. Getaway for me to run down fast and late to grab 2nd with Conduit 3rd..