If Zenyatta wins the Classic

[Gander]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

She's never been beyond 1 1/8th... I doubt they try the 1 1/4th distance against the best turf/syn horses in the world. Let alone the open company issue.

Its not the distance, its the people who own her. They arent sporting at all. They want to do the same boring thing over and over. Its no wonder this horse hasnt earned 10% of the respect and attention Rachel has. Its too bad shes owned by such tight asses. Shes got real talent but to not take a chance and do something different is ludicrous.

I'd vote for Gio Ponti for HOY before Zenyatta.

[TropicalStorm]

Originally Posted by Gander

Its not the distance, its the people who own her. They arent sporting at all. They want to do the same boring thing over and over. Its no wonder this horse hasnt earned 10% of the respect and attention Rachel has. Its too bad shes owned by such tight asses. Shes got real talent but to not take a chance and do something different is ludicrous.

I'd vote for Gio Ponti for HOY before Zenyatta.

That is a very unfair statement. They brought her back this year and did not have to bring her back. She took on a very good crop last year also.
If she goes in the Breeders Cup Classic that will be more than anything Jess Jackson did with Rachel Alexandra.

I suspect they will run her in the Classic and I doubt the owner will get an apology from you either for calling them tight asses. Tight asses don't bring back 4 year old champion horses for another season.

The owner also has won graded stakes on dirt and synthetic with her. Can Jess Jackson say the same thing about his 3yr old filly?

I find it hard to criticize an owner that runs a horse in the fall when the owner who has the likely horse of the year skipped the entire fall racing season.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CrossfireHurricane

That is a very unfair statement. They brought her back this year and did not have to bring her back. She took on a very good crop last year also.
If she goes in the Breeders Cup Classic that will be more than anything Jess Jackson did with Rachel Alexandra.

I suspect they will run her in the Classic and I doubt the owner will get an apology from you either for calling them tight asses. Tight asses don't bring back 4 year old champion horses for another season.

The owner also has won graded stakes on dirt and synthetic with her. Can Jess Jackson say the same thing about his 3yr old filly?

I find it hard to criticize an owner that runs a horse in the fall when the owner who has the likely horse of the year skipped the entire fall racing season.

rachel, who you mention is skipping the entire fall racing season(and i don't think that's etched in stone either), has run twice as much as zenyatta will this year. i also would disagree that zenyatta is a lock to run in the classic, and since the field she would face if she shows is as yet unknown, i'm not quite sure how you could possibly know it's better than the 3 grade ones that rachel ran in and won vs males, one of those three being a 3 yo filly vs open company. racing vs open co is something that zenyatta has yet to attempt in three years of racing. it's true they didn't have to bring her back, but that alone isn't necessarily deserving of great praise. they lost out on one possible foal in doing so. it's not as tho it cost them stud fees x 150.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by CrossfireHurricane

That is a very unfair statement. They brought her back this year and did not have to bring her back. She took on a very good crop last year also.
If she goes in the Breeders Cup Classic that will be more than anything Jess Jackson did with Rachel Alexandra.

I suspect they will run her in the Classic and I doubt the owner will get an apology from you either for calling them tight asses. Tight asses don't bring back 4 year old champion horses for another season.

The owner also has won graded stakes on dirt and synthetic with her. Can Jess Jackson say the same thing about his 3yr old filly?

I find it hard to criticize an owner that runs a horse in the fall when the owner who has the likely horse of the year skipped the entire fall racing season.

What part of California do you live in?

NT

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by CrossfireHurricane

That is a very unfair statement. They brought her back this year and did not have to bring her back. She took on a very good crop last year also.
If she goes in the Breeders Cup Classic that will be more than anything Jess Jackson did with Rachel Alexandra.

I suspect they will run her in the Classic and I doubt the owner will get an apology from you either for calling them tight asses. Tight asses don't bring back 4 year old champion horses for another season.

The owner also has won graded stakes on dirt and synthetic with her. Can Jess Jackson say the same thing about his 3yr old filly?

I find it hard to criticize an owner that runs a horse in the fall when the owner who has the likely horse of the year skipped the entire fall racing season.

She's won 1 graded stakes on dirt!! Beating a Ginger Punch who didn't fire her best race (I mean c'mon....Brownie Points was 2nd???)

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by CrossfireHurricane

That is a very unfair statement. They brought her back this year and did not have to bring her back. She took on a very good crop last year also.
If she goes in the Breeders Cup Classic that will be more than anything Jess Jackson did with Rachel Alexandra.

I suspect they will run her in the Classic and I doubt the owner will get an apology from you either for calling them tight asses. Tight asses don't bring back 4 year old champion horses for another season.

The owner also has won graded stakes on dirt and synthetic with her. Can Jess Jackson say the same thing about his 3yr old filly?

I find it hard to criticize an owner that runs a horse in the fall when the owner who has the likely horse of the year skipped the entire fall racing season.

You mean like running Rachel Alexandra back on two weeks rest to face BOYS in the Preakness... or sending her into the gate two additional times against males??

Zenyatta's run a whole 4 times this year to RA's 8?

End this discussion, because it's over.

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by CrossfireHurricane

That is a very unfair statement.

I suspect they will run her in the Classic and I doubt the owner will get an apology from you either for calling them tight asses. Tight asses don't bring back 4 year old champion horses for another season.

Bayakoa (5), Paseana (5), Ginger Punch...Why bother being in the game if you are going to run a superior female nine times, get an Eclipse, and then retire? It is not like she would have been servicing 60 mares this year. .