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Old 09-19-2009, 11:33 AM
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The plot thickens, I guess we have to wait for Vic to address this if he can indeed comment on it here.
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Old 09-19-2009, 11:41 AM
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Yeah I just read this too....It is strange to put an offer in the next day.
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Old 09-19-2009, 02:31 PM
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The plot thickens, I guess we have to wait for Vic to address this if he can indeed comment on it here.

it said in the article he would have no comment til after the hearing. i doubt he'd feel a need to comment here if he wouldn't comment to drf. as for the offer, just because stauffer asked if the horse was for sale, it didn't necessarily mean he was the one buying.
as for the jock...did he feel the horse was laboring, and didn't ask him for anything else in order to save him for another day? it was a maiden race, so perhaps the horse is younger? trainer instructions notwithstanding, it's up to the jock to handle the race how he sees best, depending on how it all unfolds. he's the leading jock at del mar, but i doubt this trainer is anywhere near the lead in the training standings-perhaps joel thought he knew better based on how the day was going? was the horse rank? 100 lbs vs 1000 lbs-we all know who will win that fight.


guess we'll see how it goes.
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:42 PM
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it said in the article he would have no comment til after the hearing. i doubt he'd feel a need to comment here if he wouldn't comment to drf. as for the offer, just because stauffer asked if the horse was for sale, it didn't necessarily mean he was the one buying.
as for the jock...did he feel the horse was laboring, and didn't ask him for anything else in order to save him for another day? it was a maiden race, so perhaps the horse is younger? trainer instructions notwithstanding, it's up to the jock to handle the race how he sees best, depending on how it all unfolds. he's the leading jock at del mar, but i doubt this trainer is anywhere near the lead in the training standings-perhaps joel thought he knew better based on how the day was going? was the horse rank? 100 lbs vs 1000 lbs-we all know who will win that fight.


guess we'll see how it goes.
If I were a Lawyer, I would advise no comment. I am one that believes in the presumption of innocence before being proven guilty. I think we got to tread carefully here when it involves people's reputations online. Hopefully there is a logical explanation for all involved.
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:05 PM
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If I were a Lawyer, I would advise no comment. I am one that believes in the presumption of innocence before being proven guilty. I think we got to tread carefully here when it involves people's reputations online. Hopefully there is a logical explanation for all involved.

i agree completely. i always try to give people benefit of the doubt. there's always more then one side to any story.
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:09 PM
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Just another conflict of interest present in this great sport.
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:34 PM
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How ridiculous!! Don't you people have anything better to do out there? An absolute waste of time!
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:35 PM
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It sounds from the article as if the horse was running fine outside of horses and was then taken back and asked to re-rally. I'll have to see if I can find a replay to be sure. Sure jocks mess up and sometimes it's not easy to convince a 1/2 ton horse that wants to do something that the trainer advises against it.
That said, had the inquiry not been made by the agent the next day, Glenney probably would have been annoyed by the ride but would not have thought to call a steward.
Glenney is KY now so it's not like the Cali jocks are worried about him calling them. As an aside, I'm curious as to how many jock agents/track announcers are also serving as middlemen is horse sales? Is it common?
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:00 PM
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As an aside, I'm curious as to how many jock agents/track announcers are also serving as middlemen is horse sales? Is it common?
Probably about equal to the number of clockers serving as middlemen.
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Old 09-20-2009, 08:22 AM
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Just another conflict of interest present in this great sport.
Yep, one of too many to name.
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