Travers Buzz: Quality Road a yes..

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Danzig

there's really no need for them to face off again.

yeah, that won't happen.

The only way it will happen the way I see it is they meet in TJGC at Belmont, they should meet again after she disposes the mediocrities in the Woodward and why shouldn't she? If she is the best horse in training right now you finish your career on a high and face the best at the classic 1 1/4 distance. Why protect her if she is supposedly 10 lengths better than the next best horse unless you have worries about the result.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by CSC

The only way it will happen the way I see it is they meet in TJGC at Belmont, they should meet again after she disposes the mediocrities in the Woodward and why shouldn't she? If she is the best horse in training right now you finish your career on a high and face the best at the classic 1 1/4 distance. Why protect her if she is supposedly 10 lengths better than the next best horse unless you have worries about the result.

So you want Rachel to crush in the Beldame and then 4 weeks later try the the JCGC instead of which race? I would prefer to go in the Cigar mile to exhibit her speed. BTW she is at least 8 to 10 lengths better then anything that has run this year at 9f's

[CSC]

Originally Posted by freddymo

So you want Rachel to crush in the Beldame and then 4 weeks later try the the JCGC instead of which race? I would prefer to go in the Cigar mile to exhibit her speed. BTW she is at least 8 to 10 lengths better then anything that has run this year at 9f's

I don't understand the appeal of the Beldame if she wins the Woodward as expected, why would she go the Zenyatta route now? The only logical race is the JCGC if we are to believe Jess Jackson, he is running her in spots for her 'legacy'. What type of legacy does the Beldame offer that the JCGC doesn't offer more appeal in spades?

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by CSC

I don't understand the appeal of the Beldame if she wins the Woodward as expected, why would she go the Zenyatta route now? The only logical race is the JCGC if we are to believe Jess Jackson, he is running her in spots for her 'legacy'. What type of legacy does the Beldame offer that the JCGC doesn't offer more appeal in spades?

He's going to be remembered as chicken, if by some chance the Zenyatta camp agrees to go to the Beldame.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

He's going to be remembered as chicken, if by some chance the Zenyatta camp agrees to go to the Beldame.

That's a big IF...

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by CSC

I don't understand the appeal of the Beldame if she wins the Woodward as expected, why would she go the Zenyatta route now? The only logical race is the JCGC if we are to believe Jess Jackson, he is running her in spots for her 'legacy'. What type of legacy does the Beldame offer that the JCGC doesn't offer more appeal in spades?

Can the filly crush in the Woodward first before you worry about the Beldame. Your post assumes the Woodward is a for gone conclusion. assuming you are right isn't the Beldame a logical race for RA especially with the lure of Zenyatta?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Can the filly crush in the Woodward first before you worry about the Beldame. Your post assumes the Woodward is a for gone conclusion. assuming you are right isn't the Beldame a logical race for RA especially with the lure of Zenyatta?

Is it too much to wish the purse of the JCGC was the one that was increased and not the Beldame? The BC Classic would be somewhat anti-climatic if these 3 plus QR and maybe MTB could meet in a race at Belmont, frankly I am sceptical of any of them meeting but hopefully I am wrong and they do find a way to make it so.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

The only way it will happen the way I see it is they meet in TJGC at Belmont, they should meet again after she disposes the mediocrities in the Woodward and why shouldn't she? If she is the best horse in training right now you finish your career on a high and face the best at the classic 1 1/4 distance. Why protect her if she is supposedly 10 lengths better than the next best horse unless you have worries about the result.

my 'won't happen' remark was in regards to turf. as for meeting summer bird again, for what? and i don't know why anyone would say anything about 'protecting' her. her campaign this year has been anything but protective or ordinary. and i doubt anyone in her camp is worried, she's dispatched everything she's faced this year with ease, including what is arguably the years best 3 yo colt.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Danzig

my 'won't happen' remark was in regards to turf. as for meeting summer bird again, for what? and i don't know why anyone would say anything about 'protecting' her. her campaign this year has been anything but protective or ordinary. and i doubt anyone in her camp is worried, she's dispatched everything she's faced this year with ease, including what is arguably the years best 3 yo colt.

The gap between the 2 has closed, unless one subscribes to the theory that yesterday's Travers was weak, also you can't believe Summer Bird had a realistic chance at Monmouth on that track at less than the classic distance and the way the race played out by Kent D engaging Munnings early on while Rachel watched? All things considered he did well to hold 2nd in that race.

Regardless the racing season does not end in August or September so let's watch and enjoy some rivalries. I'm sure John Henry, Secretariat and even Funny Cide didn't rest on their laurels after the end of summer, they continued to race and test themselves well into the yr.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by CSC

The gap between the 2 has closed, unless one subscribes to the theory that yesterday's Travers was weak, also you can't believe Summer Bird had a realistic chance at Monmouth on that track and the way the race played out by Kent D engaging Munnings early on while Rachel watched?

Regardless the racing season does not end in August or September so let's watch and enjoy some rivalries. I'm sure John Henry, Secretariat and even Funny Cide didn't rest on their laurels after the end of summer.

Summer Bird ran great again and kudos for being on him so early, but remember, there's no such thing as a rivalry until each side has beaten the other.

NT

[CSC]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Summer Bird ran great again and kudos for being on him so early, but remember, there's no such thing as a rivalry until each side has beaten the other.

NT

Very true, right now SB is Carol Burnett to RA's Pam Anderson...Which makes this a very interesting year for racing doesn't it? If anything I am far more interested in this year's possible matchups than last year's. And really we have RA to thank for that...she is the pinnacle that every should be shooting for, everyone should want to take on the champ, if they don't I think they are in the wrong sport.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by CSC

Very true, right now SB is Carol Burnett to RA's Pam Anderson...

So you're saying Summer Bird is a talented sketch comedy performer and Rachel Alexandra is a pair of fake boobs?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

So you're saying Summer Bird is a talented sketch comedy performer and Rachel Alexandra is a pair of fake boobs?

Gotcha...Come to think about it, I don't know which is more attractive having a few laughs or silicon.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

The gap between the 2 has closed, unless one subscribes to the theory that yesterday's Travers was weak, also you can't believe Summer Bird had a realistic chance at Monmouth on that track at less than the classic distance and the way the race played out by Kent D engaging Munnings early on while Rachel watched? All things considered he did well to hold 2nd in that race.

Regardless the racing season does not end in August or September so let's watch and enjoy some rivalries. I'm sure John Henry, Secretariat and even Funny Cide didn't rest on their laurels after the end of summer, they continued to race and test themselves well into the yr.

i'm aware of how much time is left to race this year. i also know that rachel hasn't had one mis-step, not one loss or need for an excuse all year.
the haskell wasn't exactly that long ago. it's certainly fresh in my memory, as is the amount of distance between summer bird and rachel at the wire. i like summer bird, i think he's turning out to be a nice colt, but i see no reason to face off vs the filly again. the fact that she's run and remained in training all year seemingly without a hitch speaks volumes about her ability.

[King Glorious]

She didn't just beat him, she toyed with him. Destroyed him. Even if the gap has closed, it couldn't be enough to make it competitive.