Cash for Clunkers Success

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Danzig

lmao

give' with one hand while sticking their other hand in your back pocket....

and of course any states with personal property taxes will benefit from this-a new car will cost way more then your clunker when you assess.

How naive can the American public really be?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GPK

How naive can the American public really be?

They voted for Obama. Millions of people voted for Al Gore. Even more watch American Idol. Oops, the last two would be how stupid...

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They voted for Obama. Millions of people voted for Al Gore. Even more watch American Idol. Oops, the last two would be how stupid...

This from a man that voted for Bush...TWICE.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

This from a man that voted for Bush...TWICE.

Once. Got shut out the first time.

When Obama is done in 3 years you will be missing old George.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Once. Got shut out the first time.

When Obama is done in 3 years you will be missing old George.

Not a chance. Not to say i wouldnt vote for a republican or i'm not open to the proposition that Obama might not do a great job but...

I am sincere in my belief that George W. Bush was one of the worst president in our history and there is nothing partisan about that belief. I have never seen an outgoing two term president NOT ALLOWED AT HIS OWN PARTY's CONVENTION.

Think about that.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Not a chance. Not to say i wouldnt vote for a republican or i'm not open to the proposition that Obama might not do a great job but...

I am sincere in my belief that George W. Bush was one of the worst president in our history and there is nothing partisan about that belief. I have never seen an outgoing two term president NOT ALLOWED AT HIS OWN PARTY's CONVENTION.

Think about that.

Whatever. Bush is old news. At least he liked us.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Whatever. Bush is old news. At least he liked us.

Who didn't like us???

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Whatever. Bush is old news. At least he liked us.

I am holding out on Obama. I like a lot of the things he has done. This ecomony needs all of the stimulus that can be mustered. Surely you took some econ classes at U of A and saw the mistakes of the Depression. I have no problem with doing whatever is necessary to get the wheels turning again even if some of the consequence is future inflation.

I do disagree with him on healthcare right now. It could very well be his waterloo.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Once. Got shut out the first time.

When Obama is done in 3 years you will be missing old George.

When you're not hating on Jess Jackson and downplaying the new alchemist Linda Rice ...you sound a lot like this guy in the paddock threads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIMi7fBA6e4


What's Pletcher, and McLaughlin, and Asmussen gonna do with all those good 2yos?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

When you're not hating on Jess Jackson and downplaying the new alchemist Linda Rice ...you sound a lot like this guy in the paddock threads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIMi7fBA6e4


What's Pletcher, and McLaughlin, and Asmussen gonna do with all those good 2yos?

There is very little reason to like Jess and the Linda Rice phenomenon is over.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

the Linda Rice phenomenon is over.

She's in with a shot of being the trainer with the best Saratoga win % for the decades of the 90's and 00's.

Top 8 trainers with highest Saratoga win % since 1990: (minimum of 30 total wins)

#1. Bobby Frankel: 84-for-361 (23.26%)

#2. Linda Rice: 94-for-410 (22.93%)

#3. Rick Dutrow Jr: 95-for-423 (22.45%)

#4. Steve Asmussen: 63-for-308 (20.45%)

#5. Tony Dutrow: 31-for-152 (20.39%)

#6. Bill Mott: 273-for-1349 (20.23%)

#7. Jimmy Jerkens: 47-for-236 (19.91%)

#8. Todd Pletcher: 243-for-1243 (19.54%)

[Riot]

Originally Posted by GPK

How naive can the American public really be?

They believe the President is an illegal secretly foreign-born alien. They think the government is going to take over their health care and kill grandma. They think a black guy being in their White House is a violation of their Constitution.

That's probably more gullible mixed with stupid, than naive.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

They believe the President is an illegal secretly foreign-born alien. They think the government is going to take over their health care and kill grandma. They think a black guy being in their White House is a violation of their Constitution.

That's probably more gullible mixed with stupid, than naive.

Ah the racism tactic. Yeah we all love Pelosi and Reid and Kennedy and Gore and Kerry and Howard Dean and....the other minorities on the left.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Ah the racism tactic. Yeah we all love Pelosi and Reid and Kennedy and Gore and Kerry and Howard Dean and....the other minorities on the left.

No, it was the "point out the stupidity" tactic.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You cant measure jobs saved.

I agree, you can only to a limited extent trusting information an industry gives you - "We publically said we were planning on laying off 100, but didn't because ... "

However you can use current unemployment figures within industries, and see which way the industries are heading, to predict how many of those people will be brought back to work, and if the industries are growing.

Nobody will know if it's silly or not until the last quarter comes, and we see the accuracy.

Get back to me then if you want to complain about it. This complaining about stuff that "might" happen, as if it's a done deal, is getting pretty tiresome.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

I agree, you can only to a limited extent trusting information an industry gives you - "We publically said we were planning on laying off 100, but didn't because ... "

However you can use current unemployment figures within industries, and see which way the industries are heading, to predict how many of those people will be brought back to work, and if the industries are growing.

Nobody will know if it's silly or not until the last quarter comes, and we see the accuracy.

Get back to me then if you want to complain about it. This complaining about stuff that "might" happen, as if it's a done deal, is getting pretty tiresome.

It is tiresome for me to see the White House consistently use deceptive "numbers" to support their claims purely for political gains. It taints everything else that they say or do. If you want to say that it could be said about any politician fine. But the current admnistration routinely uses phony numbers (a made up number is not a fact or even a worthwhile projection) to try to curry favor for its policies most of which will prove to eventually be destructive to the average American citizens life. Hopefully I wont have to get back to you on that.

[Riot]

It is tiresome for me to see the White House consistently use deceptive "numbers" to support their claims purely for political gains.
It taints everything else that they say or do. If you want to say that it could be said about any politician fine. But the current admnistration routinely uses phony numbers (a made up number is not a fact or even a worthwhile projection) to try to curry favor for its policies most of which will prove to eventually be destructive to the average American citizens life. Hopefully I wont have to get back to you on that.

The point is that the jobs number estimate can't yet be judged to be a deceptive estimate, as the quarter hasn't even occured yet.

Yet it's okay for you to now dismiss those numbers are false as they are made up.

Sure.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is tiresome for me to see the White House consistently use deceptive "numbers" to support their claims purely for political gains. It taints everything else that they say or do. If you want to say that it could be said about any politician fine. But the current admnistration routinely uses phony numbers (a made up number is not a fact or even a worthwhile projection) to try to curry favor for its policies most of which will prove to eventually be destructive to the average American citizens life. Hopefully I wont have to get back to you on that.

they sold the stimulus as necessary to keep unemployment from reaching 10%. yeah, that went well.

they sold the budget as saving money, our deficit is at a new record. new numbers indicate 2 trillion higher than what they had planned. who are they? the entire federal govt-congress and the president. it's not one person that caused this problem, and it certainly is well beyond one persons ability to fix it. the entire mindset of that group of morons needs to change-immediately. no doubt this was the change many thought would occur-oops.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, it was the "point out the stupidity" tactic.

I dont see a correlation between stupidity and racsim. If I call someone stupid that doesnt make them racist or vice versa. I'm sure there are brilliant people who are racist.


Figured you were just going for a typical liberal talking point. You know when you have nothing of substance to back your views, just label the other side racist.

[Riot]

I dont see a correlation between stupidity and racsim. If I call someone stupid that doesnt make them racist or vice versa. I'm sure there are brilliant people who are racist.

You don't think racism is stupid? Along with believing in death panels, the government killing grandma, and believing that the President is a secret illegal alien?

Figured you were just going for a typical liberal talking point. You know when you have nothing of substance to back your views, just label the other side racist.

Nope. That was you, alone, digging under that stone, picking it up and running with it. Nice try.