Leading Trainer / Jockey 2 weeks to go

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yes .. but you said that 4 or 5 guys have all the good 2yos.

If he said get all the good 2yos would that make you feel better?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

If he said get all the good 2yos would that make you feel better?

It would be every bit as wrong. 9 or 10 guys get the bulk of the pricey yearlings and choicy homebreds.

Rick Violette probably has the best 2-year-olds overall so far this year and he doesn't get either.

He's got 1K Bull Market yearlings that go 20.40 and dirt cheap Forbidden Apple's that destroy Jess Jackson/Asmussen Mdo's who go 9.60.

He's got a Holy Bull that was a 47K yearling that should have easily won the Sanford who goes 20.60 among others.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It would be every bit as wrong. 9 or 10 guys get the bulk of the pricey yearlings and choicy homebreds.

Rick Violette probably has the best 2-year-olds overall so far this year and he doesn't get either.

He's got 1K Bull Market yearlings that go 20.40 and dirt cheap Forbidden Apple's that destroy Jess Jackson/Asmussen Mdo's who go 9.60.

He's got a Holy Bull that was a 47K yearling that should have easily won the Sanford who goes 20.60 among others.

Please with Rick Violette. Winning a couple of maiden races with a cheap horse isnt what we are talking about.

Again Pletcher, McLaughlin and Assmussen each all have more two year olds training in places other than Saratoga than Rick Violette has total horses.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Please with Rick Violette. Winning a couple of maiden races with a cheap horse isnt what we are talking about.

Again Pletcher, McLaughlin and Assmussen each all have more two year olds training in places other than Saratoga than Rick Violette has total horses.

Chuck he has won more then a couple. He is dominating. He just ran second in another one this past Saturday. A NY bred that the barn is high on. Mclaughlin has been a disaster so far at Saratoga w/ 2 yr olds.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Chuck he has won more then a couple. He is dominating. He just ran second in another one this past Saturday. A NY bred that the barn is high on. Mclaughlin has been a disaster so far at Saratoga w/ 2 yr olds.

I expect you to miss the point. But I will make one more attempt to explain especially if you promise to show up online for the NBA draft next year.
The fact is that a very small number of trainers get a disportionate number of the best young horses. These trainers cant possibly run all their horses at Saratoga so they send them out of town or simply delay running them because they can only race so many horses in a given race. Then there is the factor of impressive maidens or winners being bought and given to these same few trainers. The competitive balance that used to exist, no longer exists because the few control the many. It isnt about what HAS happened at Saratoga, it is what HASNT happened.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I expect you to miss the point. But I will make one more attempt to explain especially if you promise to show up online for the NBA draft next year.
The fact is that a very small number of trainers get a disportionate number of the best young horses. These trainers cant possibly run all their horses at Saratoga so they send them out of town or simply delay running them because they can only race so many horses in a given race. Then there is the factor of impressive maidens or winners being bought and given to these same few trainers. The competitive balance that used to exist, no longer exists because the few control the many. It isnt about what HAS happened at Saratoga, it is what HASNT happened.

Chuck this first sentence is NOT NICE.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Chuck this first sentence is NOT NICE.

I retract it. Please accept my deepest apologizes and promise to not mention the Miami Dolphins or Arizona Wildcats for the rest of the year.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Please with Rick Violette. Winning a couple of maiden races with a cheap horse isnt what we are talking about.

Again Pletcher, McLaughlin and Assmussen each all have more two year olds training in places other than Saratoga than Rick Violette has total horses.

Violette clearly has more 2yo debut wins at Saratoga over the course of this decade than two of the 3 trainers you mention.

He's also easily tops all trainers for best group of 2yo's unleashed so far this year with Worstcasescenerio, Bulls and Bears, Not Macho Any More, Capitalisim At Risk, and Fenway Faithful.

Again - you said that four or five guys get all the good 2yo's .. what you mean is that they get a high volume of choicy homebreds and expensive yearlings.

Just like Rick Violette dominates these 2yo races at Saratoga because he goes out and gets athletes without fancy pedigree and conformation.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Violette clearly has more 2yo debut wins at Saratoga over the course of this decade than two of the 3 trainers you mention.

He's also easily tops all trainers for best group of 2yo's unleashed so far this year with Worstcasescenerio, Bulls and Bears, Not Macho Any More, Capitalisim At Risk, and Fenway Faithful.

Again - you said that four or five guys get all the good 2yo's .. what you mean is that they get a high volume of choicy homebreds and expensive yearlings.

Just like Rick Violette dominates these 2yo races at Saratoga because he goes out and gets athletes without fancy pedigree and conformation.

You are having comprehension issues also but dont provide any oo the comedy that PG1985 does

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I'm mostly messing with you - but who are the good Pletcher and McLaughlin 2-year-olds we have seen so far?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I'm mostly messing with you - but who are the good Pletcher and McLaughlin 2-year-olds we have seen so far?

The Green Monkey ?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It would be every bit as wrong. 9 or 10 guys get the bulk of the pricey yearlings and choicy homebreds.

Rick Violette probably has the best 2-year-olds overall so far this year and he doesn't get either.

He's got 1K Bull Market yearlings that go 20.40 and dirt cheap Forbidden Apple's that destroy Jess Jackson/Asmussen Mdo's who go 9.60.

He's got a Holy Bull that was a 47K yearling that should have easily won the Sanford who goes 20.60 among others.

He's got a Macho Uno that he beleives is tons better then the Holy Bull.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He's got a Holy Bull that was a 47K yearling that should have easily won the Sanford who goes 20.60 among others.

Please tell me that was a typo. I'm not so impressed by a 47k yearling.