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Old 08-20-2009, 10:08 PM
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Your math leaves out alot.

More terrible news for you: It's so successful it's ending Monday; 40% of claims have been processed, .
What you want another 3 Billion? And 4% not 40% have been processed. But then again your math dictates you pay $120 instead of a $30 co-pay to keep your insurance from being increased. Lastly good for Hyundai they're laughing all the way back to Korea as are their Japanese neighbors. At least they should need less aid next year. Maybe we can recoup some then, but I won't hold my breath.
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Old 08-21-2009, 03:56 PM
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What you want another 3 Billion? And 4% not 40% have been processed. But then again your math dictates you pay $120 instead of a $30 co-pay to keep your insurance from being increased. Lastly good for Hyundai they're laughing all the way back to Korea as are their Japanese neighbors. At least they should need less aid next year. Maybe we can recoup some then, but I won't hold my breath.
Too bad "American" companies don't make an efficient, well-made car people preferred. You said you bought "foreign", so you supported them yourself.

Those 3000 American Hyundai workers are probably laughing all the way back to the bank, off the unemployment lines, too.
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Old 08-21-2009, 09:33 PM
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Too bad "American" companies don't make an efficient, well-made car people preferred. You said you bought "foreign", so you supported them yourself.

Those 3000 American Hyundai workers are probably laughing all the way back to the bank, off the unemployment lines, too.
I bought one because of its warranty and reliability MPH 24 etc but I did it on my own w/o $3 f'n billion dollars and expenses for the snail paced Gov. workers or the $4,500 in my pocket. Smart people would have come to this like decision anyway and why this move (cash for clunkers) was like pushing a pawn in front of a king after your Queen was begot. That’s why the GM bail was the start of a bad gambler chasing a bridge jump.

OB now wants to expand Medicaid as part of the new step-by-step program? What about the 2/3 of the $$$$ you (talking to Riot) spoke about? We still haven't heard the sad stories of the poor guy who bought a car using the $4500 as a down payment and bought a vehicle for 20K that was 16K pre clunker money @ 25% interest and they'll somehow blame the dealers. Give it 200 days. Can't fix a clunker with parts or stupid with insurance. To try will nickle and dime and billion and trillion yourself to death.
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Old 08-21-2009, 10:07 PM
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I bought one because of its warranty and reliability MPH 24 etc but I did it on my own w/o $3 f'n billion dollars and expenses for the snail paced Gov. workers or the $4,500 in my pocket. Smart people would have come to this like decision anyway and why this move (cash for clunkers) was like pushing a pawn in front of a king after your Queen was begot. That’s why the GM bail was the start of a bad gambler chasing a bridge jump.

OB now wants to expand Medicaid as part of the new step-by-step program? What about the 2/3 of the $$$$ you (talking to Riot) spoke about? We still haven't heard the sad stories of the poor guy who bought a car using the $4500 as a down payment and bought a vehicle for 20K that was 16K pre clunker money @ 25% interest and they'll somehow blame the dealers. Give it 200 days. Can't fix a clunker with parts or stupid with insurance. To try will nickle and dime and billion and trillion yourself to death.
what?

chess? medicaid?

help me out here. what did you just say? in a nutshell please.
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Old 08-22-2009, 08:34 AM
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what?

chess? medicaid?

help me out here. what did you just say? in a nutshell please.
sorry was kind of meant for Riot but in a nutshell for you. OB should be treated like a spoiled wife on a endless shopping binge, take his credit cards away and keep him away from the wallet now. Maybe he could do what a lot of other politicians have done and get himself a girlfriend. That seems to ease the urge of giving others money away a bit.
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Old 08-23-2009, 11:01 AM
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sorry was kind of meant for Riot but in a nutshell for you. OB should be treated like a spoiled wife on a endless shopping binge, take his credit cards away and keep him away from the wallet now. Maybe he could do what a lot of other politicians have done and get himself a girlfriend. That seems to ease the urge of giving others money away a bit.
I don't much justification for this. He spent 3 billion on Clunkers (actually, he spent 1 billion, and Congress added another 2 billion), a program which has been greeted as an overwhelming success by the car industry, from top to bottom.
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Old 08-23-2009, 11:18 AM
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I am seriously clueless as to what you guys (Cannon, Dell, Zig) want done fiscally by any administration in power now. How about this:

No healthcare reform at all, no new programs at all.

Ignore the recession/depression, zero government interference.

That leaves us with the massive debt we were saddled with by Bush. How shall we pay for it? Income tax increases?
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I don't much justification for this. He spent 3 billion on Clunkers (actually, he spent 1 billion, and Congress added another 2 billion), a program which has been greeted as an overwhelming success by the car industry, from top to bottom.
What else would the car industry say? The govt gave buyers $3 billion dollars to buy up unsold inventory. It is a success for buyers and sellers but doesnt do much more for the other 98% of the country that is financing this. As for the workers put back to work (union workers by the way), that will be nothing but a temporary reprieve since the autos that they are making are still no better or wanted than the old ones that they couldnt sell without a giveaway of massive proportions.
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