Throat surgery for Mine That Bird

SOREHOOF · #1 08-17-2009, 03:51 PM

Nothing but bad news here. First Arroyo , now this. If he runs his odds should be a little better, but can you trust him? Maybe I should get this surgery. My old lady says I snore pretty bad. It is minor! If he wins the Travers I may look into it! Do people have an epiglottis?

SniperSB23 · #2 08-17-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Nothing but bad news here. First Arroyo , now this. If he runs his odds should be a little better, but can you trust him? Maybe I should get this surgery. My old lady says I snore pretty bad. It is minor! If he wins the Travers I may look into it! Do people have an epiglottis?

Yup, it stops water and food from going straight into your lungs.

alysheba4 · #3 08-17-2009, 06:03 PM

alysheba did it a couple of weeks before the blue grass and then was a different horse.....van berg thought the horse was looking for air and he was right.

Gander · #4 08-17-2009, 06:05 PM

Is this the same thing that happened to Afleet Alex? Didnt he run a real clunker in a race before the Arkansas Derby and the trainer say he needed some sort of operation for his breathing?

alysheba4 · #5 08-17-2009, 06:12 PM

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Is this the same thing that happened to Afleet Alex? Didnt he run a real clunker in a race before the Arkansas Derby and the trainer say he needed some sort of operation for his breathing?

.....i think he was found to be running a high fever?

Bogey · #6 08-17-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Is this the same thing that happened to Afleet Alex? Didnt he run a real clunker in a race before the Arkansas Derby and the trainer say he needed some sort of operation for his breathing?

AA had a lung infection that didn't surface until after the race (Rebel). He was checked out before the race and was fine. It really left Ritchey confused, but that was the outcome.

docicu3 · #7 08-17-2009, 10:36 PM

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AA had a lung infection that didn't surface until after the race (Rebel). He was checked out before the race and was fine. It really left Ritchey confused, but that was the outcome.

It would be very helpful to know how much "surgery" was really done here on MTB.

If all he had was a single stroke of a blade to release a band of fibrous tissue that was partially blocking the proximal trachea he'll be fine, but if there is significant swelling (normal occurence post op) following a dissection of any kind to free that glottis, then MTB may have a ventlatory limitation which would limit his performance. Somebody like Alday or Steve's other regular vet can probably clear this up when their segment on ATR is on this week. There really is no way to be sure til you know about the complexity of the surgery...

Riot · #8 08-18-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3

It would be very helpful to know how much "surgery" was really done here on MTB.

If all he had was a single stroke of a blade to release a band of fibrous tissue that was partially blocking the proximal trachea he'll be fine, but if there is significant swelling (normal occurence post op) following a dissection of any kind to free that glottis, then MTB may have a ventlatory limitation which would limit his performance. Somebody like Alday or Steve's other regular vet can probably clear this up when their segment on ATR is on this week. There really is no way to be sure til you know about the complexity of the surgery...

Most horses it's a pretty easy thing, heals well and quickly, back to work, much the better for it.

http://www.ctba.com/99magazine/sep99/sept4.htm

johnny pinwheel · #9 08-18-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4

alysheba did it a couple of weeks before the blue grass and then was a different horse.....van berg thought the horse was looking for air and he was right.

you are right on. its no big deal. horses race within two weeks and many times this procedure moves them up because they get more air.

Payson Dave · #10 08-18-2009, 02:14 PM

I have not been thrilled with the recent works (and their corresponding gallop outs) of either Birds

alysheba4 · #11 08-18-2009, 02:44 PM

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I have not been thrilled with the recent works (and their corresponding gallop outs) of either Birds

.....just too many "bird" horses right now.....

SniperSB23 · #12 08-18-2009, 03:01 PM

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I have not been thrilled with the recent works (and their corresponding gallop outs) of either Birds

I'll be curious to hear your take if you see him work again between the surgery and his next race. Not being able to breathe may have been a legit excuse for looking bad but tough to tell until he works again.