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[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This has already been shown to be far fetched. Why would a system that is patterned after medicare be more efficient especially when it will be a whole lot bigger?

Why would you think it would be a "whole lot" bigger?

Medicare currently has about 43 million people, Medicad has about 53 million, and people who are currently uninsured in the US are about 46 million, and it's estimated about 36 million of those uninsured people would be insured under a healthcare reform bill.

Of course, that doesn't count the Death Panel government officials taking over control (by armed goon squads) of the private health insurance of the other 290 million people in the country. They will do it by secretly sending death rays out from digital television converters to grannies over 70 years old. Tinfoil hats prevents that, you know.

I'm done. The paranoia is too scary.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'm done. .

you were done a long time ago and now are simply burned.

We will try and carry on for small businesses etc. If we had the we'd build a Politcal DT Memorial to you but we don't.

Take Care

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

If we had the we'd build a Politcal DT Memorial to you but we don't.

Let's see:
You believe Obama's birth certificate is fake.
Cannon believes "death panels" are real.

Naw. Don't build a DT Political Memorial, you guys definitely need all your tin foil, don't waste it

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Let's see:
You believe Obama's birth certificate is fake.
Cannon believes "death panels" are real.

Naw. Don't build a DT Political Memorial, you guys definitely need all your tin foil, don't waste it

How? No one has seen it except for the State official. BTW I know he was born in Hawaii but have a feeling there is something on there that may be misspeak?

Bye Again

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

How? No one has seen it except for the State official. BTW I know he was born in Hawaii but have a feeling there is something on there that may be misspeak?

Bye Again

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32114091...s-white_house/

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Let's see:
You believe Obama's birth certificate is fake.
Cannon believes "death panels" are real.

Naw. Don't build a DT Political Memorial, you guys definitely need all your tin foil, don't waste it

......and you think the Emperor is wearing clothes!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

......and you think the Emperor is wearing clothes!

He was very well-dressed for this one - thanks, Obama! First provisions of Obama's consumer credit card protection act passed in May go into effect:

- Starting this week, card issuers need to give you more time to pay your bills. Now, instead of mailing bills 14 days before the due date, issuers must send bills 21 days in advance of the payment date. That will mean fewer people will get hit with late fees because of postal delays.

- Another provision going into effect this week requires card issuers to give you 45 days' notice when they plan to raise your rate, instead of the current 15-day advance notice.

- Starting in February, if there's an interest rate hike, it cannot be applied to existing balances. And if you carry a balance that has a variety of interest rates, when you make a payment it must be credited to the portion of the balance with the highest annual percentage rate.

And there's much, much more that will make credit cards less usurious:

http://www.suntimes.com/business/sav....savagearticle

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

He was very well-dressed for this one - thanks, Obama! First provisions of Obama's consumer credit card protection act passed in May go into effect:

- Starting this week, card issuers need to give you more time to pay your bills. Now, instead of mailing bills 14 days before the due date, issuers must send bills 21 days in advance of the payment date. That will mean fewer people will get hit with late fees because of postal delays.

- Another provision going into effect this week requires card issuers to give you 45 days' notice when they plan to raise your rate, instead of the current 15-day advance notice.

- Starting in February, if there's an interest rate hike, it cannot be applied to existing balances. And if you carry a balance that has a variety of interest rates, when you make a payment it must be credited to the portion of the balance with the highest annual percentage rate.

And there's much, much more that will make credit cards less usurious:

http://www.suntimes.com/business/sav....savagearticle

thanks obama? lol all he did was sign it, congress has been jacking around with credit card legislation for over a year-the house passed a version over a year ago...

at any rate, good for whomever is loaded down with cards-i have zero credit cards, haven't had them for a few years now.

[Danzig]

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0..._card_act.html

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

He was very well-dressed for this one - thanks, Obama! First provisions of Obama's consumer credit card protection act passed in May go into effect:

- Starting this week, card issuers need to give you more time to pay your bills. Now, instead of mailing bills 14 days before the due date, issuers must send bills 21 days in advance of the payment date. That will mean fewer people will get hit with late fees because of postal delays.

- Another provision going into effect this week requires card issuers to give you 45 days' notice when they plan to raise your rate, instead of the current 15-day advance notice.

- Starting in February, if there's an interest rate hike, it cannot be applied to existing balances. And if you carry a balance that has a variety of interest rates, when you make a payment it must be credited to the portion of the balance with the highest annual percentage rate.

And there's much, much more that will make credit cards less usurious:

http://www.suntimes.com/business/sav....savagearticle

All of which are great except the number of people that can get credit cards and the amounts that those few that can are tiny. If you are responsible consumer these provisions do virtually nothing for you. Of course why help the people who are responsible...who have jobs, who make their mortgage payments, who already drive decent cars, who dont carry large balances on credit by spending beyond their means...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

All of which are great except the number of people that can get credit cards and the amounts that those few that can are tiny. If you are responsible consumer these provisions do virtually nothing for you. Of course why help the people who are responsible...who have jobs, who make their mortgage payments, who already drive decent cars, who dont carry large balances on credit by spending beyond their means...

LOL, only you could try and turn consumer protection against usurious practices a bad thing This helps responsible consumers too. People that want to use a credit card to maybe buy a refrigerator and pay it off over three months, etc. It even helps those who pay off their balances monthly, as there are huge fees incurred for being a day late, etc. It will decrease the number of irresponsible people that are approved for cards, which makes our costs (responsible people) less.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Let's see:
You believe Obama's birth certificate is fake.
Cannon believes "death panels" are real.

Naw. Don't build a DT Political Memorial, you guys definitely need all your tin foil, don't waste it

Stay on the subject. I know you are clueless to what is happening and maybe we can help you understand what will happen. Here's one, go to the post office or DMV and pretend that it is now your healthcare provider. Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy doesnt it?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Stay on the subject. I know you are clueless to what is happening and maybe we can help you understand what will happen. Here's one, go to the post office or DMV and pretend that it is now your healthcare provider. Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy doesnt it?

Actually, you're doing a very good job as poster child for clueless regarding healthcare reform.

I challenge you to turn off Fox News, and stop directly channeling O'Reilly and Hannity for a week. The world is a nicer, less scary place when it's reality-based.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Actually, you're doing a very good job as poster child for clueless regarding healthcare reform.

I challenge you to turn off Fox News, and stop directly channeling O'Reilly and Hannity for a week. The world is a nicer, less scary place when it's reality-based.

Clueless? You think you are a Republican!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Clueless? You think you are a Republican!

You are afraid of government death panels.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'm done. The paranoia is too scary.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Why would you think it would be a "whole lot" bigger?

Medicare currently has about 43 million people, Medicad has about 53 million, and people who are currently uninsured in the US are about 46 million, and it's estimated about 36 million of those uninsured people would be insured under a healthcare reform bill.

Of course, that doesn't count the Death Panel government officials taking over control (by armed goon squads) of the private health insurance of the other 290 million people in the country. They will do it by secretly sending death rays out from digital television converters to grannies over 70 years old. Tinfoil hats prevents that, you know.

I'm done. The paranoia is too scary.

Dont fret......Team Zero is gonna "bail out" on the whole mess pretty quick now!