Zenyetta vs Racheal

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by kgar311

Ive thought about that before and am still questioning how California is still maintaining G1 status on some of their races. Its a joke.

For the very reason your argument holds no weight, Zenyatta ships to Oaklawn and wins, then wins the Breeders Cup. Azeri wins at Oaklawn 3 years running, wins the BC. This is not smoke and mirrors, these horses that win the Milady, Vanity, Clement Hirsch, Ladys Secret can ****ing run whether its at saratoga or not.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

For the very reason your argument holds no weight, Zenyatta ships to Oaklawn and wins, then wins the Breeders Cup. Azeri wins at Oaklawn 3 years running, wins the BC. This is not smoke and mirrors, these horses that win the Milady, Vanity, Clement Hirsch, Ladys Secret can ****ing run whether its at saratoga or not.

I feel the only reasons she undefeated is because she runs on plastic, congrats to her for winning all those races but she wouldnt be undefeated if she raced on the east coast.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by kgar311

I feel the only reasons she undefeated is because she runs on plastic, congrats to her for winning all those races but she wouldnt be undefeated if she raced on the east coast.

And this means california races should be downgraded which is exactly what I quoted, nice sidestep.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by kgar311

I feel the only reasons she undefeated is because she runs on plastic, congrats to her for winning all those races but she wouldnt be undefeated if she raced on the east coast.

....yeah, the east coast is loaded with monsters

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by kgar311

I feel the only reasons she undefeated is because she runs on plastic, congrats to her for winning all those races but she wouldnt be undefeated if she raced on the east coast.

and you don't know that for sure. hate poly all you want, but you have no way of knowing, or proving that point.

[JerseyJ]

How about these horses like Big Booster, Church Service, Black Astor, and these horses that aren't much in New York, are running for tags at Belmont, and all of a sudden show up and win G2 and G3 races in California. There's another Mitchell horse that escapes my mind right now because I think he's retired who came right out there out of the claiming ranks in New York and won a graded stakes out there. I mean, the horses that Zenyatta's beating would be hard pressed to win a listed stakes at Saratoga, let alone a G3 or G2on the East Coast. Rachel Alexandra is a special horse who might just be the best horse in training right now.

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Originally Posted by JerseyJ

How about these horses like Big Booster, Church Service, Black Astor, and these horses that aren't much in New York, are running for tags at Belmont, and all of a sudden show up and win G2 and G3 races in California. There's another Mitchell horse that escapes my mind right now because I think he's retired who came right out there out of the claiming ranks in New York and won a graded stakes out there. I mean, the horses that Zenyatta's beating would be hard pressed to win a listed stakes at Saratoga, let alone a G3 or G2on the East Coast. Rachel Alexandra is a special horse who might just be the best horse in training right now.

Yea going from Lisa Lewis to Mike Mitchell and a horse moving weight up....and this is strange?