Zenyetta vs Racheal

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

How many wins does Rachel have this year? And Zenyatta?

That's much too simple.

Let's assume that Z wins the BC Classic, beating the BEST in THE WORLD. And RA is in her stall while this is happening (after having beaten up on the usual suspects in some race at BEL previously).

Hard to make a case for R as horse of the year, IMO.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

That's much too simple.

Let's assume that Z wins the BC Classic, beating the BEST in THE WORLD. And RA is in her stall while this is happening (after having beaten up on the usual suspects in some race at BEL previously).

Hard to make a case for R as horse of the year, IMO.

I was being extremely tongue in cheek with my response.

Z winning the BC Classic would be a huge possible game changer. It depends on what she does between now and then. Right now, she's a lot of lengths behind Rachel Alexandra, who has a few pretty big wins to her name while Zenyatta has just one.

The thing is... Zenyatta has had every chance to elevate herself without having to ship out of California. Hollywood Gold Cup, for example. I hope she does it in the Pacific Classic, because time is running out.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

That's much too simple.

Let's assume that Z wins the BC Classic, beating the BEST in THE WORLD. And RA is in her stall while this is happening (after having beaten up on the usual suspects in some race at BEL previously).

Hard to make a case for R as horse of the year, IMO.

No way. She has run more often and traveled all over. Not only that, she has totally dominated her competition.

Zenyatta has yet to leave the comfy confines of SoCal and done nothing but beat up on high priced claimers, some barely.

If Rachel was in the race yesterday, she'd win geared down by 5 minimum.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

No way. She has run more often and traveled all over. Not only that, she has totally dominated her competition.

Zenyatta has yet to leave the comfy confines of SoCal and done nothing but beat up on high priced claimers, some barely.

If Rachel was in the race yesterday, she'd win geared down by 5 minimum.

It doesnt matter if she travelled or not. If Zenyatta beat older males in the BC Classic, it would trump anything that Rachel did the entire year.

[cmorioles]

Not really when it is run on polytrack, or Proride, or whatever is installed that week. Everyone knows it is a third surface.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

It doesnt matter if she travelled or not. If Zenyatta beat older males in the BC Classic, it would trump anything that Rachel did the entire year.

Not a chance.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

If Rachel was in the race yesterday, she'd win geared down by 5 minimum.

Could be true. But her connections are much too stupid to run her as they don't realize that she, unlike Curlin, has the speed to be able to control the race. And I don't mean WIDE, NO COVER kind of speed. Anyone with an on-the-pacer that's not drafting on the POLY is a MORON. Cf. 90% of the connections up at WO.

Then again, when a horse dictates race type in EVERY ONE of over 10 starts, I need to see it LOSE before I concede anything to anyone. I need to see RA run FAST early on the lead, on the POLY and continue on to the wire before I take anything away from Z. Jackson is just playing it safe.