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Old 07-28-2009, 03:12 PM
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OMG have you heard Obama's former minister and his love for mandkind sermons? Louis Farakan now that's a supporter of religious freedom you speak of?
So are you saying Obama's former minister or Lois Farakan is entirely representative of the people who voted Obama into office?

Or are you just completely segueing into something else entirely, as you often do? Is it time for you to demand I get involved in a debate over Obama's former minister and Louis Farakan!

Because that has so much to do - LOL - with Obama saying he prays, and you thinking that people that support him may not think that's a good thing.
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Because that has so much to do - LOL - with Obama saying he prays, and you thinking that people that support him may not think that's a good thing.
One would have to be naive to not believe a significant number of his minions look down on praying.
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One would have to be naive to not believe a significant number of his minions look down on praying.
Actually, no, in my experience. Everyone I know who voted for Obama believes in freedom of religion, and didn't require proof of atheism from Obama before they voted for him.
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I dont care if our president prays.. (just dont waste too much time)

Now if he hears voices back then that's a problem...
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Old 07-28-2009, 03:43 PM
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I dont care if our president prays.. (just dont waste too much time)

Now if he hears voices back then that's a problem...
I'll bet you don't care what particular god he chooses to pray to, either
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I'll bet you don't care what particular god he chooses to pray to, either

I dont care if he prays to Pamela Andersons boobs.
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Steve please dart me. PLEASE.
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Old 07-28-2009, 04:15 PM
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Actually, no, in my experience. Everyone I know who voted for Obama believes in freedom of religion, and didn't require proof of atheism from Obama before they voted for him.
I know a tall guy who owns horses that is the exception to your everyone and it's tough for me to think he's alone.
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I know a tall guy who owns horses that is the exception to your everyone and it's tough for me to think he's alone.
He's mad Obama prays? What doesn't he like, that Obama is religious?

Obama has always been open about being Christian since he's been in the public eye, it's not new news. So why anybody should be surprised he prays is puzzling to me.
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He's mad Obama prays? What doesn't he like, that Obama is religious?

Obama has always been open about being Christian since he's been in the public eye, it's not new news. So why anybody should be surprised he prays is puzzling to me.

I wouldnt doubt it if Obama isnt religious. Along with 50% or more of politicians.. including Repubs. The thing is.. if you let anyone believe you arent religious you have no hope of getting elected to any office.
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He's mad Obama prays? What doesn't he like, that Obama is religious?

Obama has always been open about being Christian since he's been in the public eye, it's not new news. So why anybody should be surprised he prays is puzzling to me.
Prayer. I think it was the the "praying all the time" not the standard before you go to bed prayers. And I think he's more disgusted than mad. LOL
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Prayer. I think it was the the "praying all the time" not the standard before you go to bed prayers. And I think he's more disgusted than mad. LOL

its because its political BullCrap. Obama will say ANYTHING as long as it makes his numbers at the polls look better.

I've never seen someone backtrack so much in my life. He's like Clinton (bill) but way more liberal.

"Unemployment will not go above 8% if we pass the stimulus"
"Oh... well... umm... Bush left me with the problem"

"equality for gays"
"oh...well.. umm.. equality for gays gotta wait"
"oh.. wait.. the gays are mad at me now.. well I'll get right on this"

"i'm against mccain's idea to tax employee benefits to fund health care"
"oh.. well.. maybe its a good idea, what do the polls suggest?"

he even backtracked on the gates racism thing.

its becoming way too predictable.
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I know a tall guy who owns horses that is the exception to your everyone and it's tough for me to think he's alone.
BTW, my "everyone" was only "everyone I know who voted for Obama".
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BTW, my "everyone" was only "everyone I know who voted for Obama".
He voted for Obama I'm sure of that. LOL
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So are you saying Obama's former minister or Lois Farakan is entirely representative of the people who voted Obama into office?

Or are you just completely segueing into something else entirely, as you often do? Is it time for you to demand I get involved in a debate over Obama's former minister and Louis Farakan!

Because that has so much to do - LOL - with Obama saying he prays, and you thinking that people that support him may not think that's a good thing.
not represented at all just Obama supporters which is what you originally asked for. Remember "My experience has been that the Obama supporters tolerate freedom" You somehow segued into religious intolerance of the few who think Obama is muslim and certainly they represent the Republicans?
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Old 07-28-2009, 04:23 PM
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not represented at all just Obama supporters which is what you originally asked for. Remember "My experience has been that the Obama supporters tolerate freedom" You somehow segued into religious intolerance of the few who think Obama is muslim and certainly they represent the Republicans?
I never asked for anything.

You've misquoted me. My statement was, "My experience has been that the Obama supporters tolerate freedom of religion for other people far more readily than the "He's a Muslim!" hate crowd."

And nowhere did I say or imply that the "He's a Muslim!" hate crowd had anything at all to do with a political party.
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I never asked for anything.

You've misquoted me. My statement was, "My experience has been that the Obama supporters tolerate freedom of religion for other people far more readily than the "He's a Muslim!" hate crowd."

And nowhere did I say or imply that the "He's a Muslim!" hate crowd had anything at all to do with a political party.
Ok then I should have said it's "My experience that the Bush and for that matter Palin supporters, dogs, babies and horses tolerate freedom of religion far more than the "Death to America" Muslim crowd.
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Ok then I should have said it's "My experience Bush and for that matter Palin supporters, dogs, babies and horses tolerate freedom of religion far more than the "Death to America" Muslim crowd.

come on del... its been pretty obvious lately that the republican loudmouths (palin, rush, and basically all their fans) are not very tolerant of freedom of religion. Riot makes a good example using the "Obama is a secret muslim" crowd.
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come on del... its been pretty obvious lately that the republican loudmouths (palin, rush, and basically all their fans) are not very tolerant of freedom of religion. Riot makes a good example using the "Obama is a secret muslim" crowd.
She takes a very small minority and they're somehow indicative of Rush fans (by the way I'm not one). It wasn't a good example IMO although everyone I know who supports the conservative platform believes Obama is Christian though most are from his hometown. The majority of them also feel he left his racist minister for nothing but political reasons.
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She takes a very small minority and they're somehow indicative of Rush fans (by the way I'm not one). It wasn't a good example IMO although everyone I know who supports the conservative platform believes Obama is Christian though most are from his hometown. The majority of them also feel he left his racist minister for nothing but political reasons.

of course. see post #28.

everything he does is for political reasons. its so obvious, and not different than any other elected official.

except Palin of course. She only does things for Jesus reasons.
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