Vic Had A Stroke?

[Diver67]

Vic, its always a pleasure to see you on TVG, so I'll look forward to that.

[chucklestheclown]

Originally Posted by Diver67

Vic, its always a pleasure to see you on TVG, so I'll look forward to that.

Ditto. Hope you are feeling well.

Thanks guys. I am feeling much better. Looking forward to trying to help Joel keep the momentum going at DM. Won't be easy. Bejarano and Gomez will be there from the beginning and are both loaded.

I've let TVG know that I'm available to fill in in a pinch during Del Mar so you might see me a few times. Hope so. I always enjoy being on the network when my schedule allows.

See ya at the seashore!!

V

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Thanks guys. I am feeling much better. Looking forward to trying to help Joel keep the momentum going at DM. Won't be easy. Bejarano and Gomez will be there from the beginning and are both loaded.

I've let TVG know that I'm available to fill in in a pinch during Del Mar so you might see me a few times. Hope so. I always enjoy being on the network when my schedule allows.

See ya at the seashore!!

V

It's been a pleasure listening to your calls.. Always will remember the earthquake call as my sister lives in LA. and I phoned her up immediately.. She was surprised I new that they were in the middle of a quake.. The Cesario race is also a fond memory..

If you are smart you will pack your bags immediately after Delmar and head to NY. Unfortunately California racing is in turmoil and the folks who head east and plant roots first will be there before the sun sets on Ca.

Originally Posted by freddymo

It's been a pleasure listening to your calls.. Always will remember the earthquake call as my sister lives in LA. and I phoned her up immediately.. She was surprised I new that they were in the middle of a quake.. The Cesario race is also a fond memory..

If you are smart you will pack your bags immediately after Delmar and head to NY. Unfortunately California racing is in turmoil and the folks who head east and plant roots first will be there before the sun sets on Ca.

Freddy. For a smart guy that could be the worst idea I've ever heard. I'd rather flip burgers and live in So. Cal than be a millionaire anywhere else. No way no chance. If the sun sets it's setting right on top of me, my family and my jock.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Freddy. For a smart guy that could be the worst idea I've ever heard. I'd rather flip burgers and live in So. Cal than be a millionaire anywhere else. No way no chance. If the sun sets it's setting right on top of me, my family and my jock.

Please take care of yourself big guy that little event was a sentinel event as we say in the business to slow down and let the young ones leap tall buildings with a single bound....see how many days in a row you can go without being exhausted. When you pass 1000 give me a call....Let's see what your BP does the first day of Delmar.....ladies day ahhhhh nothing like it anywhere.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Freddy. For a smart guy that could be the worst idea I've ever heard. I'd rather flip burgers and live in So. Cal than be a millionaire anywhere else. No way no chance. If the sun sets it's setting right on top of me, my family and my jock.

Good luck to you. He is a fine jock and I am sure will always be one of the 4 or 5 guys who gets a mount. Always hear and read how people are OK flippin burgers. I wonder if they sincerely mean it. Lot's of sunny days everywhere. Days always seem the brightest at the racetrack. Too bad the sun set on HP and Bay Meadows.. Other then Shug shipping Plodders who handle poly to Ca. who in there right mind ships a horse into Ca. No dirt horse will ever come into town and Ca. already suffers from isolation. I hope it changes for all but being first to come is always better then being last to leave.. BTW save burger flipping it really is overrated especial at min wage.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Other then Shug shipping Plodders who handle poly to Ca. who in there right mind ships a horse into Ca. No dirt horse will ever come into town and Ca. .

Why do they have to be dirt horses? I would be happy to ride Gio Ponti like Gomez did at Santa Anita all winter on the main track, money is money.

[goingtothewhip]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Good luck to you. He is a fine jock and I am sure will always be one of the 4 or 5 guys who gets a mount. Always hear and read how people are OK flippin burgers. I wonder if they sincerely mean it. Lot's of sunny days everywhere. Days always seem the brightest at the racetrack. Too bad the sun set on HP and Bay Meadows.. Other then Shug shipping Plodders who handle poly to Ca. who in there right mind ships a horse into Ca. No dirt horse will ever come into town and Ca. already suffers from isolation. I hope it changes for all but being first to come is always better then being last to leave.. BTW save burger flipping it really is overrated especial at min wage.

Sage advice.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Freddy. For a smart guy that could be the worst idea I've ever heard. I'd rather flip burgers and live in So. Cal than be a millionaire anywhere else. No way no chance. If the sun sets it's setting right on top of me, my family and my jock.

First, really glad your setback was so minor. You certainly sound at full strength in this thread.

I've never really understood the I-wouldn't-live-anywhere-else mentality of some Californians. Doesn't smog, traffic, and crime count for anything? I spent 6 years in San Diego and 2 in Los Angeles, all of it near the ocean, so I'm not talking blindly here. But I've found equal satisfaction and beauty elsewhere and have zero desire to return to Calif.

I think some So. Californians build up this horror of cold weather to monumental heights. There are pleasures and tradeoffs with almost every locale. I'm curious where else you've lived, Vic.

--Dunbar

[the_fat_man]

Why are we all obsessed with the fall of CALI racing? How about the fall of racing in Kentucky or NY? Anyone take a look at some of the cards at BEL this meet? Especially someone who remembers what it was like 10 or 20 year ago.

If I were Stauffer and Rosario and I decided to move tack, it wouldn't be to NY.

I'd head on up to Woobine, which, presently, has the best racing in the country. POLY and TURF up the wazoo, LARGE fields AND LARGE PURSES. And, just about the most pathetic group of jocks, top to bottom, you'd find anywhere. In fact, you'd be hardpressed to find a worst colony at some of the bush tracks. Head up there for the summer; win a ton of races; make a ton of money.

If CALI racing dies, then Kentucky and NY racing is right behind it.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

First, really glad your setback was so minor. You certainly sound at full strength in this thread.

I've never really understood the I-wouldn't-live-anywhere-else mentality of some Californians. Doesn't smog, traffic, and crime count for anything? I spent 6 years in San Diego and 2 in Los Angeles, all of it near the ocean, so I'm not talking blindly here. But I've found equal satisfaction and beauty elsewhere and have zero desire to return to Calif.

I think some So. Californians build up this horror of cold weather to monumental heights. There are pleasures and tradeoffs with almost every locale. I'm curious where else you've lived, Vic.

--Dunbar

I doubt Vic meant that literally. As you know, he's the agent for a guy that's on a pace to make $12 million this year. Rosario gets 10% of that which comes out to $1.2 million. Vic gets 25% of that. Vic is doing extremely well. If Hollywood Park, Santa Anita, and Del Mar all when out of business and closed and Rosario was forced to go East, I would have to wager that Vic would be heading East with Rosario.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by freddymo

It's been a pleasure listening to your calls.. Always will remember the earthquake call as my sister lives in LA. and I phoned her up immediately.. She was surprised I new that they were in the middle of a quake.. The Cesario race is also a fond memory..

If you are smart you will pack your bags immediately after Delmar and head to NY. Unfortunately California racing is in turmoil and the folks who head east and plant roots first will be there before the sun sets on Ca.

Rosario just won the Hollywood Park jock's title by 10 races. Rosario won 79 races at Hollywood Park this meet. That's more than any other jock has won at the HP Spring/Summer meet in 6 years. Not only that, he's on pace to eclipse $12 million in purses this year. He's the 6th leading rider in the nation in purses won.

I think it's probably a good idea for Joel and Vic to stay here in Southern California. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Congratulations to Vic and Joel on winning the jockey's title at Hollywood Park. That is quite an accomplishment. Rafael Bejarano had won 6 consecutive riding titles until being dethrone by Joel at this meet.

Great job by both Joel and Vic! I give Vic alot of credit. I highly doubt Joel would have been leading rider if he didn't have Vic. Joel was doing fine with Vince, but he has reached a new level with Vic. Keep up the great work Vic!

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Rosario just won the Hollywood Park jock's title by 10 races. Rosario won 79 races at Hollywood Park this meet. That's more than any other jock has won at the HP Spring/Summer meet in 6 years. Not only that, he's on pace to eclipse $12 million in purses this year. He's the 6th leading rider in the nation in purses won.

I think it's probably a good idea for Joel and Vic to stay here in Southern California. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Yep when all the trainers he rode all those winners for move he can rule the fair circuit.. Have you looked at the state of Cal. racing? Have you looked at the fields? I mean seriously Delmar's opening day card is like a kyiosk not a boutique.

No knock on Vic or Joel.. They are swimming upstream.. The horses are moving east with their trainers and owners. You will always be able to find a good live mount in Ca. just not at the race track.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Yep when all the trainers he rode all those winners for move he can rule the fair circuit.. Have you looked at the state of Cal. racing? Have you looked at the fields? I mean seriously Delmar's opening day card is like a kyiosk not a boutique.

No knock on Vic or Joel.. They are swimming upstream.. The horses are moving east with their trainers and owners. You will always be able to find a good live mount in Ca. just not at the race track.

You say that trainers and owners are moving East. I guess that could happen at some point but it hasn't happened yet and I don't see it happening any time soon. The only guy that has moved is Paulo Lobo (not exactly a big-name trainer). If you look at the leading trainers at Hollywood Park (O'Neil, Sadler, Baffert, Mitchell, Hollendorfer, Ellis, Jones, etc.), none of those guys are planning on leaving any time soon. So your assessment that the horses, trainers, and owners are moving east, is not correct.

Racing is certainly not doing great in Southern California, but if you look at their numbers, I don't think the numbers are down any more than anywhere else. I think the handle at Hollywood Park was down 10% or something like that. I don't think that's any worse than anywhere else.

If racing goes downhill so badly in Southern California that the purses drop in half, then I agree with you that guys would start moving away. But we're nowhere near that point yet and I don't think it will happen.

There are actually just as many top trainers shipping into California as shipping out. Pletcher ships to California quite a bit and he even keeps a string here for alot of the year. Guys like Mott, Romans, and Clement are shipping in for big races. Biancone is now here full time, although he's not nearly as big as he used to be.

Anyway, I don't see any imminent demise of California racing.

And with regards to Rosario, now that he is doing better than ever and was just leading rider at HP, I think he would have to be out of his mind to leave.

[goingtothewhip]

Originally Posted by freddymo

It's been a pleasure listening to your calls.. Always will remember the earthquake call as my sister lives in LA. and I phoned her up immediately.. She was surprised I new that they were in the middle of a quake.. The Cesario race is also a fond memory..

If you are smart you will pack your bags immediately after Delmar and head to NY. Unfortunately California racing is in turmoil and the folks who head east and plant roots first will be there before the sun sets on Ca.

Your sister said it was a wrong number.... no matter.