Most Impressive Horse of the day

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Round Pen

Steve Maybe You can Find Out for Sure But I have Already HEard that she has been Sold. I am hearing 1.2 mill

Apparently a guy named Jess Jackson bought her. And add another $300,000 to the already ridiculous price.

[Sightseek]

Ridiculous? Buyers pay more than that for an unraced yearling...

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Ridiculous? Buyers pay more than that for an unraced yearling...

I couldn't agree more. 3 mil for a filly who hasn't raced or produced is a lot more insane than a 1.5 for a filly who you know can run fast. Plus Stevie A. will move her forward in a hurry. lol

Better then Godolphin at least will see her race and race often if she is healthy enough. I have a feeling Jess can take the hit if she turns into a frog so 1.5 mil sounds about right. Especially if I was on the sell side.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I couldn't agree more. 3 mil for a filly who hasn't raced or produced is a lot more insane than a 1.5 for a filly who you know can run fast. Plus Stevie A. will move her forward in a hurry. lol

Better then Godolphin at least will see her race and race often if she is healthy enough. I have a feeling Jess can take the hit if she turns into a frog so 1.5 mil sounds about right. Especially if I was on the sell side.

Considering that with one try under her belt she's already won more races than that one wonderful horse who cost more than 6x her price.....

Doesn't seem so ridiculous at all.

[Cannon Shell]

1.5 million for that filly is WAY above market value for her in this market. She won a restricted, non graded stakes beating absolutely nothing but Calder based maiden breakers. The most recent beyers for the field were 48,44, 55, 48, 47, 53, and 54. She was a tick faster than a maiden race a few races earlier and ran almost identical fractions and final time as the colts division later in the card. While there are those here that are much more qualified to discuss times, speed figures, etc. she didnt appear to run all that fast to warrant a 1.5 million dollar offer. While she is by a very hot sire, her female family is undistinguished. If she were to get hurt and never run or win again she is worth about 150k as a BM.

And there are very few fillies ever bought in the 3 million dollar range as yearlings.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

1.5 million for that filly is WAY above market value for her in this market. She won a restricted, non graded stakes beating absolutely nothing but Calder based maiden breakers. The most recent beyers for the field were 48,44, 55, 48, 47, 53, and 54. She was a tick faster than a maiden race a few races earlier and ran almost identical fractions and final time as the colts division later in the card. While there are those here that are much more qualified to discuss times, speed figures, etc. she didnt appear to run all that fast to warrant a 1.5 million dollar offer. While she is by a very hot sire, her female family is undistinguished. If she were to get hurt and never run or win again she is worth about 150k as a BM.

And there are very few fillies ever bought in the 3 million dollar range as yearlings.

Well Jess hit the bid and the industry now has 1.5 million more dollars invested into it. True there aren't a ton of 3 mil dollar gals sold as yearlings in 2009 but in 05 - 08 there were a few I think.What's the difference the hammer price is a joke anyway. The point isn't the 1.5mil its 1.5 for a runner vs. 1.5 for a dream. You know Chuck Jess has done OK overpaying in the past. Plus does it really friggin matter "IF" she was sold for 800k or 1.5 mil in the scheme of Jess Jacksons life in 2009? I know of a owner who sold a modestly bred filly to Lael for 1 mil plus after she won a non grade turf stakes. She has gone on to win a few Graded races and is a very nice runner. I am not sure it was a good deal or a bad deal for Lael I just know it was an offer that worked for both parties. Repping that Jess overpaid is easy today. the same way you can say a sports team overpays to try and win a championship by giving up more talented young players with bright futures for more established stars. Basically if the horse goes on to do well he didn't over pay a penny, and if the horse stinks he lost a little more then he should have. Who thought Curlin was Curlin when they paid 3 mil?

Oh no. Please don't do it.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Well Jess hit the bid and the industry now has 1.5 million more dollars invested into it. True there aren't a ton of 3 mil dollar gals sold as yearlings in 2009 but in 05 - 08 there were a few I think.What's the difference the hammer price is a joke anyway. The point isn't the 1.5mil its 1.5 for a runner vs. 1.5 for a dream. You know Chuck Jess has done OK overpaying in the past. Plus does it really friggin matter "IF" she was sold for 800k or 1.5 mil in the scheme of Jess Jacksons life in 2009? I know of a owner who sold a modestly bred filly to Lael for 1 mil plus after she won a non grade turf stakes. She has gone on to win a few Graded races and is a very nice runner. I am not sure it was a good deal or a bad deal for Lael I just know it was an offer that worked for both parties. Repping that Jess overpaid is easy today. the same way you can say a sports team overpays to try and win a championship by giving up more talented young players with bright futures for more established stars. Basically if the horse goes on to do well he didn't over pay a penny, and if the horse stinks he lost a little more then he should have. Who thought Curlin was Curlin when they paid 3 mil?

Though alot of what you said is true, this filly is not a bargin at this price regardless of who bought her. Jackson has enough money to spend way more than 1.5 million on 100 horses but that still doent make it a good price except for the seller.

[MISTERGEE]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

1.5 million for that filly is WAY above market value for her in this market. She won a restricted, non graded stakes beating absolutely nothing but Calder based maiden breakers. The most recent beyers for the field were 48,44, 55, 48, 47, 53, and 54. She was a tick faster than a maiden race a few races earlier and ran almost identical fractions and final time as the colts division later in the card. While there are those here that are much more qualified to discuss times, speed figures, etc. she didnt appear to run all that fast to warrant a 1.5 million dollar offer. While she is by a very hot sire, her female family is undistinguished. If she were to get hurt and never run or win again she is worth about 150k as a BM.

And there are very few fillies ever bought in the 3 million dollar range as yearlings.

she ended up running an 87 beyer with relative ease, and I also thought her broodmare had thrown a few decent ones