Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

View Poll Results: Is being a jockey's agent and a track announcer a conflict of interest
yes 40 28.37%
no 101 71.63%
Voters: 141. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-04-2009, 12:39 PM
SniperSB23 SniperSB23 is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 6,086
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach Pants


Name an announcer who is an agent.
Why would that make a difference? The announcer can't impact the results of the race so why would I care what other job the announcer has. This is silly, this is a sport where the owners, trainers, and jockeys are fully allowed to bet AGAINST their own horses. If we want to talk about conflict of interest isn't that the big one?
  #2  
Old 07-04-2009, 12:43 PM
Coach Pants
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Why would that make a difference? The announcer can't impact the results of the race so why would I care what other job the announcer has. This is silly, this is a sport where the owners, trainers, and jockeys are fully allowed to bet AGAINST their own horses. If we want to talk about conflict of interest isn't that the big one?
That's news to me.
  #3  
Old 07-04-2009, 12:44 PM
SniperSB23 SniperSB23 is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 6,086
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach Pants
That's news to me.
What is possibly stopping them?
  #4  
Old 07-04-2009, 12:49 PM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Jockeys are certainly not legally allowed to bet against the horses they are riding. I believe owners and trainers can bet whoever they want.
  #5  
Old 07-04-2009, 01:13 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles
Jockeys are certainly not legally allowed to bet against the horses they are riding. I believe owners and trainers can bet whoever they want.
that never happens
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
  #6  
Old 07-04-2009, 12:50 PM
Coach Pants
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SniperSB23
What is possibly stopping them?
http://www.chrb.ca.gov/policies_and_...ules6-2006.pdf

"1971. Wagering by Jockey or Driver.

"No jockeys or drivers shall make any wagers, or have any wagers made in their behalf, in any race in which they participate, except through the owners or trainers on the horses which they ride or drive.
Any owners or trainers wagering for such jockeys or drivers shall maintain records of all such wagers and all other presents or other gratuities given any jockeys or drivers. Such records will be furnished to the stewards or the Board or its investigators upon demand.
  #7  
Old 07-04-2009, 12:56 PM
SniperSB23 SniperSB23 is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 6,086
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach Pants
http://www.chrb.ca.gov/policies_and_...ules6-2006.pdf

"1971. Wagering by Jockey or Driver.

"No jockeys or drivers shall make any wagers, or have any wagers made in their behalf, in any race in which they participate, except through the owners or trainers on the horses which they ride or drive.
Any owners or trainers wagering for such jockeys or drivers shall maintain records of all such wagers and all other presents or other gratuities given any jockeys or drivers. Such records will be furnished to the stewards or the Board or its investigators upon demand.
OK, so the jockey has to do it through the owner and trainer. Still you don't think that a trainer can legally bet against his horse isn't a bigger conflict of interest than an announcer also being an agent?
  #8  
Old 07-04-2009, 01:02 PM
Coach Pants
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SniperSB23
OK, so the jockey has to do it through the owner and trainer. Still you don't think that a trainer can legally bet against his horse isn't a bigger conflict of interest than an announcer also being an agent?
No because they are gambling.

Vic's getting a set amount of money for calling the races AND a set percentage for each of Rosario's rides with a sliding scale depending on placing. There is no gamble.
Closed Thread



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:47 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.