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Old 07-04-2009, 12:13 PM
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Has anyone dug into the American Oaks yet? Once again a tremendously deep field and open betting affair.

Who knows what to make of the Euros and the New Zealander, but it's certainly cool to have Glen Boss come to the U.S. to ride. Not sure he's been here before??

Had Albertrani Friday to discuss Gozzip Girl who figures to sit a nice ground-saver.

Another question is where does this race move next year with Hollywood gone? In 8 years it came from nowhere to become the best turf race of its' kind (3yo fillies) in the US. Would Arington latch on to it for Million Preview Day?

Anyway... 14 tomorrow and there has to be some value to be found. And note Gary Stevens trainee on the AE list.
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:31 PM
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Its a lot of money in a category that has little money to begin with, I would say the American Oaks is a premier race around the world because of the money for a restricted filly race....was the most brilliant thing HP did.

It seems to me like Del Mar could have that race in 13 days and get the same field.
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:34 PM
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What is wrong with HP that the day before the biggest card of the meet that its 130 and they cant even have the program up to handicap with. I have no clue how you can draw Thursday and it takes till Saturday to figure out the program. Why do you have to wait for early scratches, trust us, we can figure it out.
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Old 07-05-2009, 08:14 AM
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Has anyone dug into the American Oaks yet? Once again a tremendously deep field and open betting affair.

Who knows what to make of the Euros and the New Zealander, but it's certainly cool to have Glen Boss come to the U.S. to ride. Not sure he's been here before??

Had Albertrani Friday to discuss Gozzip Girl who figures to sit a nice ground-saver.

Another question is where does this race move next year with Hollywood gone? In 8 years it came from nowhere to become the best turf race of its' kind (3yo fillies) in the US. Would Arington latch on to it for Million Preview Day?

Anyway... 14 tomorrow and there has to be some value to be found. And note Gary Stevens trainee on the AE list.
Steve,

As a regular follower of Aussie racing I can certainly vouch in Glen Boss' riding capabilities. He's right there with Darren Beadman and Nash Rawiller as that country's best riders, it will be interesting to see if he can adapt to the smaller track at Hollywood.
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Old 07-05-2009, 08:29 AM
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I think I read on Racing Post or somewhere that Puttanesca's staying in the states with Canani after the race. I had a hard time trying to figure her out too without having much knowledge of the quality of New Zealand racing. The Weld horse seems like she has some upside and has been running against much better. He's very high on her for whatever that's worth.
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Old 07-05-2009, 08:35 AM
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I think I read on Racing Post or somewhere that Puttanesca's staying in the states with Canani after the race. I had a hard time trying to figure her out too without having much knowledge of the quality of New Zealand racing. The Weld horse seems like she has some upside and has been running against much better.
I'm just looking now Hockey, the horse Boss is riding is not an Aussie horse so I can honestly say I do not recognize the quality of horses she has been racing in, what I do know is when N.Z horses ship to Rosehill, Flemington...ect...they should be respected. This one would be a complete guess to me.
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Old 07-05-2009, 08:32 AM
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Another question is where does this race move next year with Hollywood gone? In 8 years it came from nowhere to become the best turf race of its' kind (3yo fillies) in the US. Would Arington latch on to it for Million Preview Day?
I would put it on Million Day if it went this route. The Beverly D. as far as I can remember isn't exactly riddled with 3YO fillies. And the American Oaks would be a nice counteract to the Secretariat.
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Old 07-05-2009, 08:40 AM
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Has anyone dug into the American Oaks yet? Once again a tremendously deep field and open betting affair.

Who knows what to make of the Euros and the New Zealander, but it's certainly cool to have Glen Boss come to the U.S. to ride. Not sure he's been here before??

Had Albertrani Friday to discuss Gozzip Girl who figures to sit a nice ground-saver.

Another question is where does this race move next year with Hollywood gone? In 8 years it came from nowhere to become the best turf race of its' kind (3yo fillies) in the US. Would Arington latch on to it for Million Preview Day?

Anyway... 14 tomorrow and there has to be some value to be found. And note Gary Stevens trainee on the AE list.
It's too bad Colonial isn't doing better because it would be a great addition to the VA Derby card and the turf course here is awesome.
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Old 07-05-2009, 03:56 PM
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In 8 years it came from nowhere to become the best turf race of its' kind (3yo fillies) in the US.
What about the Queen Liz Cup at Keeneland?
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:38 PM
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I think Rare Ransom could well be a nice price tonight for this. She has a much better chance than Apple Charlotte in my opinion..
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:39 PM
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I think Rare Ransom could well be a nice price tonight for this. She has a much better chance than Apple Charlotte in my opinion..
I'm starting to think she's the wise guy horse. There goes any hope of double digit odds.
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:45 PM
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+ Weld
+ will improve for the step up in trip
+ she's already beaten older horses
+ shes tacticly versatile

- Pat Smullen
- She prefers soft going

defo worth the bet if she's higher than the other Euro..
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:46 PM
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I like her a lot.
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:11 PM
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Aside from the Dermot Weld and first lasix angles, which are usually overbet, I'm not seeing what there is to like about Rare Ransom. The Rooftop race just did not look very impressive and she beat a field that didn't quicken on a boggy course.

Adding a quarter of a mile to the farthest she's ever gone is also a problem in my opinion. I doubt she'll struggle with the distance in the end, but it's a concern. Her last win also came on the pace and she's not going to get the lead here.

I think, like last year, this is a B list group of imports and the Americans will hold up well.

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Old 07-05-2009, 06:34 PM
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I like Magical Affair at 8-1. Someone tell me why that is a bad bet.
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