Tales from the Wonderland

[hi_im_god]

david souter was one of the 5.

and you have a democratic president and senate.

why are we talking about this case? did you expect an appointment more conservative than souter?

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

david souter was one of the 5.

and you have a democratic president and senate.

why are we talking about this case? did you expect an appointment more conservative than souter?

Frankly I think the Obama group is hoping the conservatives
throw a fit and make it difficult. She will get confirmed anyway.
They will most likely have to replace another more liberal leaning
judge (the group of 4 is old)and I think a losing fight now, makes the next appt. easier to get through.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Frankly I think the Obama group is hoping the conservatives
throw a fit and make it difficult. She will get confirmed anyway.
They will most likely have to replace another more liberal leaning
judge (the group of 4 is old)and I think a losing fight now, makes the next appt. easier to get through.

you're right. they don't care about fits.

they knew this was a slam dunk. they still know it's a slam dunk. it was the easy non-controversial choice.

pissing on the nominee is part of the fund raising process for "judicial watch" groups. it justifies their existence even when it quixotic. there will always be a "controversy" manufactured. both sides do this.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

you're right. they don't care about fits.

they knew this was a slam dunk. they still know it's a slam dunk. it was the easy non-controversial choice.

pissing on the nominee is part of the fund raising process for "judicial watch" groups. it justifies their existence even when it quixotic. there will always be a "controversy" manufactured. both sides do this.

I'm still trying to figure out how John Roberts sailed through confirmation and then was suddenly Grand Poohbah

I mean...wasn't Rose Marie available?

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I'm still trying to figure out how John Roberts sailed through confirmation and then was suddenly Grand Poohbah

I mean...wasn't Rose Marie available?

presidents nominate. the senate advises and consents (or doesn't).

i don't share all his judicial philosophies but there was nothing in his record to indicate he shouldn't have been confirmed. and i've seen nothing completely unexpected in his decisions so far.

part of the reason this country works so well is that we have rules that are followed even when our side loses. unlike iran. unlike honduras.

outside of anomalies like bush era torture, we generally don't cut corners.

john roberts deserved confirmation then as much as sonia sotomayor does now.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

presidents nominate. the senate advises and consents (or doesn't).

i don't share all his judicial philosophies but there was nothing in his record to indicate he shouldn't have been confirmed. and i've seen nothing completely unexpected in his decisions so far.

part of the reason this country works so well is that we have rules that are followed even when our side loses. unlike iran. unlike honduras.

outside of anomalies like bush era torture, we generally don't cut corners.

john roberts deserved confirmation as much as sonia sotomayor.

Stop it..you know better

I never drop Dick Van Dyke show references and expect them to be left astray

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Stop it..you know better

I never drop Dick Van Dyke show references and expect them to be left astray

sorry.

apparently i was in full lecture mode. i've rebooted now lol.

Originally Posted by GBBob

I'm still trying to figure out how John Roberts sailed through confirmation and then was suddenly Grand Poohbah

I mean...wasn't Rose Marie available?

Both Alito and Roberts received fewer Democratic votes
than Ginsburg received Republican votes. I think Ginsburg
was something like 93 - 5. I think Roberts had somewhere around
20 votes against. And Alito was actually close, 50 something
to 40 something.