shaq to the Cavs

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Poor Curry never had a chance. As close to a sacrificial lamb as you can get in sports. Not to say that he was any good but really how do we know?

I like the moves.

why?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

why?

I like the moves because they are realistic. They Know they have a better chance of getting mickey mouse to suit up and play in motown than they do of getting wade, bosh or lebron.

Villanueva will turn 25 this year and he averaged 16 and 7 in 27 minutes a game. What do you mean with the derrick coleman thing? On top of that, you get him for slightly more than the anticipated midlevel exception.

Gordon can score with anyone in the league. I think this could signal a move to trade hamilton or stuckey.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I like the moves because they are realistic. They Know they have a better chance of getting mickey mouse to suit up and play in motown than they do of getting wade, bosh or lebron.

Villanueva will turn 25 this year and he averaged 16 and 7 in 27 minutes a game. What do you mean with the derrick coleman thing? On top of that, you get him for slightly more than the anticipated midlevel exception.

Gordon can score with anyone in the league. I think this could signal a move to trade hamilton or stuckey.

There are other players that will be available other than those three. While there is nothing wrong individually with Gordon or CV they are huge defensive liabilities and strange fits for a team without an identity. Trading Hamilton is not going to be easy with his contract, the trend of everyone cutting expenses and the needs of serious contenders. Derrick Coleman was a talented offensive player who routinely took weeks off of playing with any intensity. CV is a similar player. He is a good scoring big man but doesn't give you much other than that. For $40 million I would want a bit more especially with a team that has some issues in the frontcourt.

If they were signing with a team with a big star who is an undisputed top dog like Kobe or Lebron or a team with a strong head coach like Jackson or Sloan maybe I would feel like they had a chance to be more successful. But Detroit isnt not much better than they were last year with them and that isn't nearly good enough.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There are other players that will be available other than those three. While there is nothing wrong individually with Gordon or CV they are huge defensive liabilities and strange fits for a team without an identity. Trading Hamilton is not going to be easy with his contract, the trend of everyone cutting expenses and the needs of serious contenders. Derrick Coleman was a talented offensive player who routinely took weeks off of playing with any intensity. CV is a similar player. He is a good scoring big man but doesn't give you much other than that. For $40 million I would want a bit more especially with a team that has some issues in the frontcourt.

If they were signing with a team with a big star who is an undisputed top dog like Kobe or Lebron or a team with a strong head coach like Jackson or Sloan maybe I would feel like they had a chance to be more successful. But Detroit isnt not much better than they were last year with them and that isn't nearly good enough.

Gordon is a defensive liability but i dont think that is so much the case with CV. Coleman was a head case. CV might be just young. The 40 million thing is deceptive because it works out to a reasonable yearly cap hit for a guy that will be in your 8 man rotation for sure. A very good signing in my opinion any way you cut it.

Giving Gordon that kind of money could come back to hurt especially if you don't know what you are doing with Hamilton. That will be a tough contract to get rid of. The backcourt situation is interesting to say the least.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Gordon is a defensive liability but i dont think that is so much the case with CV. Coleman was a head case. CV might be just young. The 40 million thing is deceptive because it works out to a reasonable yearly cap hit for a guy that will be in your 8 man rotation for sure. A very good signing in my opinion any way you cut it.

Giving Gordon that kind of money could come back to hurt especially if you don't know what you are doing with Hamilton. That will be a tough contract to get rid of. The backcourt situation is interesting to say the least.

I should think they would keep him.
Does Hamilton indicate he is not happy
and wants out?

[herkhorse]

wow, the things you miss by just looking at the thread titles. or should I say you can't judge a thread by it's title

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Gordon is a defensive liability but i dont think that is so much the case with CV. Coleman was a head case. CV might be just young. The 40 million thing is deceptive because it works out to a reasonable yearly cap hit for a guy that will be in your 8 man rotation for sure. A very good signing in my opinion any way you cut it.

Giving Gordon that kind of money could come back to hurt especially if you don't know what you are doing with Hamilton. That will be a tough contract to get rid of. The backcourt situation is interesting to say the least.

http://www.bucksketball.com/?p=285

Interesting observations from someone who appears to have actually watched the Bucks last year

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://www.bucksketball.com/?p=285

Interesting observations from someone who appears to have actually watched the Bucks last year

Maybe just a little sour grapes by a bucks fan, or at least my assumption is that he is a bucks fan considering his moniker is "bucksketball". Can you imagine if Scuds were given a blog to write about Mark Texiera?

Regardless, I have no problem with what he said. Ive watched CV play plenty of times. Cleveland wanted him but they couldnt give him more than the mid level exception.

Detroit had to beat that. They had to beat the mid level exception to convince him to play for a non contender. So what did Detroit get?

If they staggered the contract, 6-7-8-9-10, The hit in the first two years will be negligible for a 24 year old low post player that can score and rebound. A majority of his problems are mental not physical. He has ability and no one denies it...and he's not an a.s.s. If he plays well, youve got a low post starter for bargain dollars by NBA standards. If he doesnt improve, then its still not a bad deal until year four and by year five you can trade the expiring contract.

The gordon deal might have been a reach. I dont like undersized two guards unless you have a big combo guard to pair him with. For that kind of money, they are betting on him being a stud. This is hit or miss.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Maybe just a little sour grapes by a bucks fan, or at least my assumption is that he is a bucks fan considering his moniker is "bucksketball". Can you imagine if Scuds were given a blog to write about Mark Texiera?

Regardless, I have no problem with what he said. Ive watched CV play plenty of times. Cleveland wanted him but they couldnt give him more than the mid level exception.

Detroit had to beat that. They had to beat the mid level exception to convince him to play for a non contender. So what did Detroit get?

If they staggered the contract, 6-7-8-9-10, The hit in the first two years will be negligible for a 24 year old low post player that can score and rebound. A majority of his problems are mental not physical. He has ability and no one denies it...and he's not an a.s.s. If he plays well, youve got a low post starter for bargain dollars by NBA standards. If he doesnt improve, then its still not a bad deal until year four and by year five you can trade the expiring contract.

The gordon deal might have been a reach. I dont like undersized two guards unless you have a big combo guard to pair him with. For that kind of money, they are betting on him being a stud. This is hit or miss.

I just cant see these two making Detroit appreciably better. They obviously have to do some more moving but spending to spend does not work and unless there is a major move down the road to make this all make sense I think that Dumars is reaching.