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Old 06-30-2009, 11:56 AM
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"And she also ran very slow everytime"

Why do you keep talking about figures of synthetic horses like it means something?
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Old 06-30-2009, 12:00 PM
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Dream Empress wraps that one up for the fillies.
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Old 06-30-2009, 12:01 PM
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"And she also ran very slow everytime"

Why do you keep talking about figures of synthetic horses like it means something?
Who said anything about figures?

I don't care if she got a 125 Beyer and a negative -7 on the sheets while she was getting drowned by Hooh Why in the Ashland... she was running slow.
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Old 06-30-2009, 12:14 PM
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Who said anything about figures?

I don't care if she got a 125 Beyer and a negative -7 on the sheets while she was getting drowned by Hooh Why in the Ashland... she was running slow.
Hooh Why was sitting on a monster trip after her effort in the SA Oaks, where she held very well against the flow. Outside of Gozzip Girl and SB, HW 'wiped out' the field in the Ashland. It's evident that the setup that day favored speed -- though HY did run well in WO subsequently. You've seen the replay, I'm sure you noted that GG, who's not bad at all, had dead aim at HY in the stretch and is supposed to blow by. Instead, she hung like a rat -- which she's not. So, what's your point about SB in the Ashland?

"SLOW" is from the old paradigm.

POLY requires a conceptual shift and a new vocabulary.

P.S. AD HOC methodology changes do not quite equal a conceptual shift.

Oh, and those not playing POLY on a regular basis really shouldn't be commenting on it, on a regular basis.
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Old 06-30-2009, 12:25 PM
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Let me take a stab at your post before I actually read it....

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mumble, mumble, mumble .... babble, babble, babble, blah, blah ... TRAKUS, POLY, WIPE OUT, Prado
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Old 06-30-2009, 12:27 PM
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Let me take a stab at your post before I actually read it....
What you really need to do is get your ass over to the HOL thread on Friday nights and show us what you have. Many would benefit from your take on POLY racing.
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Old 06-30-2009, 12:31 PM
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What you really need to do is get your ass over to the HOL thread on Friday nights and show us what you have. Many would benefit from your take on POLY racing.
I don't play Hollywood Park.

I'd rather play the Pleasenton fair .... opening day is tomorrow by the way!
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Old 06-30-2009, 12:48 PM
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it should be noted that this Keeneland meet was speed BIASED(favoring forward position), especially compared to the typical way Keeneland has played since going poly.

the track was pretty quirky. I only mention this to avoid the misconception that Synthetic is bias-free(as insinuated heare and other threads), not to claim Stardom Bound had any sort of excuse, as i waited what seemed like ages for the ashland once the ill advised decision to run SB on poly was announced.

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Hooh Why was sitting on a monster trip after her effort in the SA Oaks, where she held very well against the flow. Outside of Gozzip Girl and SB, HW 'wiped out' the field in the Ashland. It's evident that the setup that day favored speed -- though HY did run well in WO subsequently. You've seen the replay, I'm sure you noted that GG, who's not bad at all, had dead aim at HY in the stretch and is supposed to blow by. Instead, she hung like a rat -- which she's not. So, what's your point about SB in the Ashland?

"SLOW" is from the old paradigm.

POLY requires a conceptual shift and a new vocabulary.

P.S. AD HOC methodology changes do not quite equal a conceptual shift.

Oh, and those not playing POLY on a regular basis really shouldn't be commenting on it, on a regular basis.
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Old 06-30-2009, 12:24 PM
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Who said anything about figures?

I don't care if she got a 125 Beyer and a negative -7 on the sheets while she was getting drowned by Hooh Why in the Ashland... she was running slow.
So I am to believe you did not look at any figures from SB's two grade 1 wins in making the statement, come on.

You just seem to rely heavily on figures (Beyers I assume) for synthetic horses when in reality they are as valuable as turf figures.

Your post is correct, these horses have bombed entirely other then SB's who won a couple grade 1's and placed in another.
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Old 06-30-2009, 12:30 PM
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You just seem to rely heavily on figures (Beyers I assume) for synthetic horses when in reality they are as valuable as turf figures.

Ah, no ... no I don't.

And I just think this bit here with you acting like I'm lost on handicapping a synthetic track is really just a clever trick on your part to get me to remind everyone how my public selections have done at PID on it's synthetic the last two years.

Sorry, I wasn't born yesterday. I won't do it. I'm not going to toot my own horn and spout off on my dazzling sustained profitability like some kind of self promoting back patter would do. Won't happen.
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