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Old 06-28-2009, 07:33 PM
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Jason Kidd on the subject:

"I could sit and watch from the bench," Kidd said. "[LeBron] is so talented, he's going to get guys wide-open shots. So we'll look at free agency and what happens for me next year."

I guess Jason Kidd doesnt know what he is talking about either.
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Old 06-28-2009, 09:48 PM
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Jason Kidd on the subject:

"I could sit and watch from the bench," Kidd said. "[LeBron] is so talented, he's going to get guys wide-open shots. So we'll look at free agency and what happens for me next year."

I guess Jason Kidd doesnt know what he is talking about either.
Wide open shots aren't necessarily three point shots. There are very few players in the league that can take contested threes without being planted on the bench. Most three point attempts are open shots.
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Old 06-28-2009, 09:59 PM
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Wide open shots aren't necessarily three point shots. There are very few players in the league that can take contested threes without being planted on the bench. Most three point attempts are open shots.
Yeah, but whether you want to admit it or not, there are degrees of being open. Open enough to shoot? yes, I would agree most 3 point shots are taken when a guy is open enough to shoot a reasonable shot that isnt forced.

It seems to me that some of the shots Lebron's teammates get are incredibly wide open. Like, no one within 10 ft wide open. Wide open where they can actually take a dribble and set up if they want. I will find two videos and post them and show you what i mean.
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Yeah, but whether you want to admit it or not, there are degrees of being open. Open enough to shoot? yes, I would agree most 3 point shots are taken when a guy is open enough to shoot a reasonable shot that isnt forced.

It seems to me that some of the shots Lebron's teammates get are incredibly wide open. Like, no one within 10 ft wide open. Wide open where they can actually take a dribble and set up if they want. I will find two videos and post them and show you what i mean.
Being wider open does not correlate to hitting more shots. Hell sometimes being unusually wide open is worse because you think for a split second because of it and dont just naturally let it fly.
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Old 06-28-2009, 10:12 PM
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Being wider open does not correlate to hitting more shots. Hell sometimes being unusually wide open is worse because you think for a split second because of it and dont just naturally let it fly.
I actually agree with this point to a degree. On top of that, you have the pressure of having to live up to playing with a great player meaning if you win, its because of him and if you lose its because of you. If you miss those wide open shots, you will be on the bench or let go. I would imagine that could be tough.

However, the threes that i watched jamison, butler, stevenson clank this year were not nearly as clean of looks as they were getting when Agent Zero was doing his thing. They just werent.
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However, the threes that i watched jamison, butler, stevenson clank this year were not nearly as clean of looks as they were getting when Agent Zero was doing his thing. They just werent.
Jamison and Butler had the same % last year as they had lifetime. Stevenson was hurt and just generally awful.
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Old 06-28-2009, 10:51 PM
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Jamison and Butler had the same % last year as they had lifetime. Stevenson was hurt and just generally awful.
Isnt it interesting that Stevenson never shot less than 40% from behind the arc, had his best season from three point land the one season he played with Arenas and then has been dreadful the last two years while he was out?

Butler isnt really a 3 point shooter so that was a bad example.
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