Oracle/Rupert...Debbie Got Even

[blackthroatedwind]

Horses that impress us in August usually don't pan out. More than often they are either precocious or rushed too early. Of course, it seems trainers wait so long to start firsters, with so much emphasis on the BC, that one little setback seems to end their year.

On the other hand, has anyone discussed Tagg's firster, Nobiz like Shobiz, who won his debut ( albeit with a perfect trip ) at a mile on Saturday at Belmont and earned a Beyer number of 94? I saw he's going straight to the Champagne ( and then, weather permitting, if everything goes right, I expect Tagg to point him to the Cheltingham meet ).

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Horses that impress us in August usually don't pan out. More than often they are either precocious or rushed too early. Of course, it seems trainers wait so long to start firsters, with so much emphasis on the BC, that one little setback seems to end their year.

On the other hand, has anyone discussed Tagg's firster, Nobiz like Shobiz, who won his debut ( albeit with a perfect trip ) at a mile on Saturday at Belmont and earned a Beyer number of 94? I saw he's going straight to the Champagne ( and then, weather permitting, if everything goes right, I expect Tagg to point him to the Cheltingham meet ).

I think that is what impresses me most about Henny Hughes, excellent 2 year old, lasted through the BC Juvie and being flown all around the world (lord only knows why he was, winters in Florida are lovely) and is still impressing.

Was super surprised by Nobiz...it made me forget about having Vanquisher in my picks.

[Gander]

Isnt "Nobiz like Shobiz" a recyled name from a horse who ran appx 7-8 years ago?

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Horses that impress us in August usually don't pan out. More than often they are either precocious or rushed too early. Of course, it seems trainers wait so long to start firsters, with so much emphasis on the BC, that one little setback seems to end their year.

On the other hand, has anyone discussed Tagg's firster, Nobiz like Shobiz, who won his debut ( albeit with a perfect trip ) at a mile on Saturday at Belmont and earned a Beyer number of 94? I saw he's going straight to the Champagne ( and then, weather permitting, if everything goes right, I expect Tagg to point him to the Cheltingham meet ).

With that being said, a 2YO filly has grabeb this division rather decisively early on and gone on to dominate in the BC Juvenile Fillies - asserting her superiority over the other juvenile fillies in her crop - the last few years with Storm Flag Flying, Halfbridled, Sweet Catomine and Folklore all being rather dominant....

There will be a change in that pattern this year - or at least it has that feeling, as Baffert's filly is the #1 seed at the moment but looks far from dominant.....

[blackthroatedwind]

I can't speak of the California horses you mentioned, but at this point in the year Storm Flag Flying was a maiden breaker and Folklore was coming off a mediocre second to Adieu in the Spinaway.

It's early.

[GPK]

from DRF.com

Debbie Got Even likely to Alcibiades

Trainer Nick Zito opted to get more seasoning into his promising 2-year-old filly Debbie Got Even, shipping her Monday to Delaware Park, where she won a first-level allowance race by three-quarters of a length over a loose-on-the-lead Akronism.

Zito said Tim Samms, the racing manager for owners Tomisue Hilbert and John Menard, thought Debbie Got Even would benefit from more seasoning rather than being sent directly into a stakes race.

Now, off the allowance win, Debbie Got Even will most likely make her stakes debut in the $400,000 Alcibiades on Oct. 6.

"I think she might be a really special filly," Zito said. "If she does okay in the Alcibiades, we'll go onto the Breeders' Cup."

* Extreme Supreme, a promising 3-year-old son of Deputy Minister, makes his first start against winners in Saturday's sixth race. On July 28 at Saratoga, Extreme Supreme won a maiden race by seven lengths over two next-out winners. The field for the one-mile race includes On Board Again, Oh So Awesome, Superfly, and Touchdown Kid.

[Danzig]

i DO like this fillies name.....debbie got even. oh YEAH.