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Old 06-25-2009, 01:59 PM
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What about a guy like Bobby Simmons? He's making over $10 million this year so I have to imagine the Nets want to unload him. Even if they just want the expiring contract they could have Ilgauskas and be in the same boat. Simmons shot 44.7% with NJ last year, 42.0% with the Milwaukee a few years back, and 43.5% with the Clippers before that. Couldn't he be a perfect fit off the bench for the Cavs?
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:03 PM
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What about a guy like Bobby Simmons? He's making over $10 million this year so I have to imagine the Nets want to unload him. Even if they just want the expiring contract they could have Ilgauskas and be in the same boat. Simmons shot 44.7% with NJ last year, 42.0% with the Milwaukee a few years back, and 43.5% with the Clippers before that. Couldn't he be a perfect fit off the bench for the Cavs?
Outside shooting is not their problem. It was a strength last year. That's why they won 66 games last year. The problem with the team is that it was too much a focus...when the outside shots stopped falling in the Orlando series they had nothing else other than LEBron. No post offense to fall back on. Same with Orlando....difference in that series they made their 3s Cleveland didn't. THeir 3's stopped falling against LA...they lost in 5. When you depend so much on making 3s as both those teams do, you'll have to get lucky to win it all. Neither did.
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:56 PM
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What about a guy like Bobby Simmons? He's making over $10 million this year so I have to imagine the Nets want to unload him. Even if they just want the expiring contract they could have Ilgauskas and be in the same boat. Simmons shot 44.7% with NJ last year, 42.0% with the Milwaukee a few years back, and 43.5% with the Clippers before that. Couldn't he be a perfect fit off the bench for the Cavs?
For 10 million a year? The Nets want to keep him to open up cap space for next year.
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Old 06-26-2009, 06:47 PM
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For 10 million a year? The Nets want to keep him to open up cap space for next year.
The Nets could take on Ilgauskas' $10 million a year and be in the same situation for cap space.
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Old 06-26-2009, 07:24 PM
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The Nets could take on Ilgauskas' $10 million a year and be in the same situation for cap space.
The Cavs dont want to trade Ilgauskas. Why would they do that? Shaq isnt a full time player anymore.
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:12 AM
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The Cavs dont want to trade Ilgauskas. Why would they do that? Shaq isnt a full time player anymore.
Shaq averaged 30 minutes a game last year and played in over 70.

If he matches that, keeping ilguaskas would be in essence paying 10 million dollars for a guy you hope will play 18 minutes a game.

If Cleveland can unload that salary, they will. The problem is, no one will take it.
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Old 06-27-2009, 07:03 PM
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Shaq averaged 30 minutes a game last year and played in over 70.

If he matches that, keeping ilguaskas would be in essence paying 10 million dollars for a guy you hope will play 18 minutes a game.

If Cleveland can unload that salary, they will. The problem is, no one will take it.
Cleveland would not unload Ilgauskas without getting a quality center in return. they need to rest Shaq more as they are planning on playing deep into the playoffs and he will need to be fresh for another month and a half if things go right. Not to mention putting all your eggs in the Shaq basket with no safety net seems to be an extremely risky play. And 18 minutes a game is a a quarter and a half, a lot of time to have to play..... who exactly would be the back up? Cleveland cant replace him in the free agent market this year.

Unrestricted Free Agents

Raef LaFrentz
Radoslav Nesterovic
Jason Collins
Zaza Pachulia
Robert Swift
Chris Mihm
Saer Sene
Jarron Collins
Didier Ilunga-Mbenga
Calvin Booth
Melvin Ely
Ryan Hollins
Lorenzen Wright
Adonal Foyle
Jamaal Magloire
Sean Marks
Theo Ratliff
Patrick O'Bryant
Jake Voskuhl
Dikembe Mutombo


See anybody there you want to play 18 minutes? Cleveland just brought in Chinese money, they aren't worried about the cap this year especially with Shaq's 20 mill coming off the cap next year.
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Old 06-28-2009, 04:01 PM
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Cleveland would not unload Ilgauskas without getting a quality center in return. they need to rest Shaq more as they are planning on playing deep into the playoffs and he will need to be fresh for another month and a half if things go right. Not to mention putting all your eggs in the Shaq basket with no safety net seems to be an extremely risky play. And 18 minutes a game is a a quarter and a half, a lot of time to have to play..... who exactly would be the back up? Cleveland cant replace him in the free agent market this year.

Unrestricted Free Agents

Raef LaFrentz
Radoslav Nesterovic
Jason Collins
Zaza Pachulia
Robert Swift
Chris Mihm
Saer Sene
Jarron Collins
Didier Ilunga-Mbenga
Calvin Booth
Melvin Ely
Ryan Hollins
Lorenzen Wright
Adonal Foyle
Jamaal Magloire
Sean Marks
Theo Ratliff
Patrick O'Bryant
Jake Voskuhl
Dikembe Mutombo


See anybody there you want to play 18 minutes? Cleveland just brought in Chinese money, they aren't worried about the cap this year especially with Shaq's 20 mill coming off the cap next year.
No GM in his right mind would pay a non starter or sixth man 10 million dollars by choice. When factoring in luxury tax, thats 20 million for a guy playing 18 minutes.

If he could get rid of the contract he would because in place of Z, you could get a guy like Pachulia and then another decent wing player for the same cash or you could just save the money.

This isnt play money chuck.
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