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Old 06-25-2009, 01:57 PM
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A 40% shooter is good, hardly great. Let's be clear about that. I wanted to look up something real quick. Back when the Bulls won their six titles, I wanted to see what the % was of the guy taking the most 3's besides Jordan.

1991-Tucker 41%
1992-Hodges 38%
1993-Hodges 38%
1996-Pippen 37%
1997-Pippen 37%
1998-Pippen 32%

West's 40% is about in line for what a decent/good shooter will hit. I get Sniper's point though. The percentage is at 40 for him because of LeBron. But what Sniper didn't point out correctly the first time but did fix later is that West is not normally a 40% shooter so the LeBron factor is what improved him. If West was a normal 40% shooter, then Sniper would be correct in expecting him to be up even higher with James.
IN the end though is 36 percent really that bad?? 3 point shooting was far from a problem for the Cavs this year. As I said they were one of the top 3 percentage teams in the league last year. The problem in the ORlando series is it left them for some reason. I dont' know the reason...Orlando's defense, just not shooting well etc. I have no clue. It appeared they got open looks in that series though. That's what the team was however...LeBron and a bunch of outside shooters. They are in trouble if they don't shoot well. That's what happened the Orlando series. EVen Ilgauskas despite being 7 foot 3, his offensive strength is as an outside shooter. Dalakhani mentioned it several times and it was one thing I did agree with her about...the Cavs had zero post offensive threat.

But my point is if you take a lot of 3 pointers anything in the 35 to 45 percent range is good. WEst is a pretty good 3 point shooter.
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:05 PM
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IN the end though is 36 percent really that bad?? 3 point shooting was far from a problem for the Cavs this year. As I said they were one of the top 3 percentage teams in the league last year. The problem in the ORlando series is it left them for some reason. I dont' know the reason...Orlando's defense, just not shooting well etc. I have no clue. It appeared they got open looks in that series though. That's what the team was however...LeBron and a bunch of outside shooters. They are in trouble if they don't shoot well. That's what happened the Orlando series. EVen Ilgauskas despite being 7 foot 3, his offensive strength is as an outside shooter. Dalakhani mentioned it several times and it was one thing I did agree with her about...the Cavs had zero post offensive threat.

But my point is if you take a lot of 3 pointers anything in the 35 to 45 percent range is good. WEst is a pretty good 3 point shooter.
I don't think 36% is bad. I do think that with the way the Cavalier offense is set up, they'd be better off getting a guy that's a more natural 40% shooter so that when he gets the better looks that James creates, he might up it to around 44-45%.
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Old 06-25-2009, 04:21 PM
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Past history aside, I think if Shaq came into camp leaner and business-like he wouldn't be prone to late-season injuries.....they could get another shot!
However, Jefferson going to Spurs could make it really interesting in the West!
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Old 06-25-2009, 04:47 PM
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Past history aside, I think if Shaq came into camp leaner and business-like he wouldn't be prone to late-season injuries.....they could get another shot!
However, Jefferson going to Spurs could make it really interesting in the West!
We need more than Jefferson.
We need a post.
We need a backup Point.
We need Manu to stay healthy all year (a virtual impossibility with the way he throws himself about at his age).
We need Duncan's knees to stay healthy.
We need Parker to be as good as he was this season.

We are old.
And we dont play good D anymore.

It helps getting Jefferson.
But it does not make us contenders with the Lakers.
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Old 06-25-2009, 04:49 PM
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We need more than Jefferson.
We need a post.
We need a backup Point.
We need Manu to stay healthy all year (a virtual impossibility with the way he throws himself about at his age).
We need Duncan's knees to stay healthy.
We need Parker to be as good as he was this season.

We are old.
And we dont play good D anymore.

It helps getting Jefferson.
But it does not make us contenders with the Lakers.
And you need the Lakers and Mavs to move to the Eastern Conference.
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Old 06-25-2009, 05:05 PM
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And you need the Lakers and Mavs to move to the Eastern Conference.
We can beat the Mavs.
I dont worry about them.
If we have what I wrote above occur, we
can smack the Mavs.
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And you need the Lakers and Mavs to move to the Eastern Conference.
8 years later and KG can't let go of this mavericks fantasy.
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Old 06-25-2009, 04:55 PM
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Is Ben Stein...part of the deal ?? I thought they are chained together for a year ???
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:57 PM
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I don't think 36% is bad. I do think that with the way the Cavalier offense is set up, they'd be better off getting a guy that's a more natural 40% shooter so that when he gets the better looks that James creates, he might up it to around 44-45%.
This is ridiculous.
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