The Great Republican Hope

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Gales, the guy should be running a damn funeral home.

obama?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by gales0678

obama?

Jeb has no charisma. Get a clue. He's a sleeping agent.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Jeb has no charisma. Get a clue.

yeah and Obama couldn't direct a 2 car funeral

again i'll ask the question - what qualifications did Mr Obama have over Jeb Bush to be president of the United States

again rather than give me jokes , please give me specifics , executive / leagislative accomplishments that were up and above what Jeb Bush did in 2 terms as Gov of the State of Florida

if obama can win and become president on a thin resume , jeb is more than qualified to be next up in '12

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by gales0678

yeah and Obama couldn't direct a 2 car funeral

again i'll ask the question - what qualifications did Mr Obama have over Jeb Bush to be president of the United States

again rather than give me jokes , please give me specifics , executive / leagislative accomplishments that were up and above what Jeb Bush did in 2 terms as Gov of the State of Florida

if obama can win and become president on a thin resume , jeb is more than qualified to be next up in '12

It's more about electability

1) A third Bush?
2) A guy known as the ringleader of the crew that stole it from Gore?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by GBBob

It's more about electability

1) A third Bush?
2) A guy known as the ringleader of the crew that stole it from Gore?

bob good am - thx for dodging the specifics questions about obama/jeb

but

it won't matter 4 yrs from now , if we sink further in to a black hole , and taxes continue to rise on local and state levels , and people have fewer and fewr dollars in their pocket , people won't vote for hope and change, they'll vote for the candidate that may best serve us in the future , that maybe Jeb Bush , that may not be Jeb Bush , but time will tell

As for point #2 - it was a democrat that approved the ballot in Plam Beach Ctny that made it hard for the seniors living there to distinguish between Gore and Buchanan - Jeb Bush had nothing to do with what happened in Palm Beach County , the lady who was running the democratic party knew she had elderly voters in centur city , yet she didn't get a valid ballot out , and that is what started the whole fiasco

oh and by the way Gore could have been president if he had won his home state - Tenneessee , who fixed that one???

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by gales0678

bob good am - thx for dodging the specifics questions about obama/jeb

but

it won't matter 4 yrs from now , if we sink further in to a black hole , and taxes continue to rise on local and state levels , and people have fewer and fewr dollars in their pocket , people won't vote for hope and change, they'll vote for the candidate that may best serve us in the future , that maybe Jeb Bush , that may not be Jeb Bush , but time will tell

As for point #2 - it was a democrat that approved the ballot in Plam Beach Ctny that made it hard for the seniors living there to distinguish between Gore and Buchanan - Jeb Bush had nothing to do with what happened in Palm Beach County , the lady who was running the democratic party knew she had elderly voters in centur city , yet she didn't get a valid ballot out , and that is what started the whole fiasco

oh and by the way Gore could have been president if he had won his home state - Tenneessee , who fixed that one???

I wasn't dodging it because I don't disagree with it, at least from the Right's perspective. My only "conern" about your comparison had to do with electability, not qualifications

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I wasn't dodging it because I don't disagree with it, at least from the Right's perspective. My only "conern" about your comparison had to do with electability, not qualifications

fair eneough , that is a part of the equation

also bob , a lot of people didn't think another clinton was electable .....if not for Barack , Mrs Clinton would be at 1600 Penn ave right now

[Riot]

Originally Posted by GBBob

It's more about electability

1) A third Bush?
2) A guy known as the ringleader of the crew that stole it from Gore?

I'll give Jeb that I would have preferred him to his brother, and I think even their father would have preferred Jeb be the one to go nationally, but I can never see him being electable nationally. Two reasons: see GGBob's post

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by gales0678

yeah and Obama couldn't direct a 2 car funeral

again i'll ask the question - what qualifications did Mr Obama have over Jeb Bush to be president of the United States

again rather than give me jokes , please give me specifics , executive / leagislative accomplishments that were up and above what Jeb Bush did in 2 terms as Gov of the State of Florida

if obama can win and become president on a thin resume , jeb is more than qualified to be next up in '12

He doesn't have the talent. You get a lil hung up on qualifications(leaders are more born than made.) The main qualification is to be a great leader. That guy your talking about can lead a funeral home.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

He doesn't have the talent. You get a lil hung up on qualifications(leaders are more born than made.) The main qualification is to be a great leader. That guy your talking about can lead a funeral home.

outside of being a talented speaker , how has obama shown he can lead a country let alone a 2 car funeral - i don't get it

The last democratic was a leader - he had it all , charm ,charism , ability to talk and a record of improving a state over 2 terms as governor

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by gales0678

The last democratic was a leader - he had it all , charm ,charism , ability to talk and a record of improving a state over 2 terms as governor

Did my level best to get Bubba back in there.

Felt he was the best option for cleaning up the economic wreckage after eight years of Bush-Cheney 'leadership'.


Hopefully BO is up to this historic, monumental challenge.




By the way, if that Rev. Wright story would've broken a little earlier in the primary season, Bubba would've been back in business, in my estimation...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

By the way, if that Rev. Wright story would've broken a little earlier in the primary season, Bubba would've been back in business, in my estimation...

The Rev. Wright story was broken by Hillary during the Dem primaries. It failed to get any traction there as it was nonsensical, and it failed - again - when the GOP tried to resurrect it.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by gales0678

outside of being a talented speaker , how has obama shown he can lead a country let alone a 2 car funeral - i don't get it

We know ya don't get it. On this, you're simply unteachable. He blew away Hillary n' McCain with one of the best organized campaigns ever. People worked very hard for him. Now, somehow, in that brain of Gales, this is not registering as leadership. Hey, I underestimated his ability to get people to follow him(Gales, people follow leaders.) Somehow, he got more votes in Indiana(Bush won there by like 15 n' 20%.) That cost me 2k(in winnings...only $50 in money bet.) Gales, three hours after I made the bet, guess what happened. Seems Mr. Obama (who you say can't lead) somehow got Mr. Colin Powell to disagree with you on that. Guess what. Scuds boat was sunk in Indiana on that day. BTW, your only shot at beating OBAMA in 2012 is by somehow convincing this other guy(POWELL) to run. It's about those independent voters, and you're not gunna get them with a Bush, a Newt, or a Holy Roller Hockey Mom. Keep talking about what experience they've had running stuff. It doesn't matter. They will not vote for them. The rich Mormon that talks down to people? They ain't gunna vote for him. Look at who ya just tried to win with. You tried to win with an opposition leader. Other than Powell, that's pretty much all you've got(opposition leaders.) What is Jeb Bush? He's pretty much Bob Dole without the pencil in his hand. You keep ridin' that puppy. See where it gets ya.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

We know ya don't get it. On this, you're simply unteachable. He blew away Hillary n' McCain with one of the best organized campaigns ever. People worked very hard for him. Now, somehow, in that brain of Gales, this is not registering as leadership. Hey, I underestimated his ability to get people to follow him(Gales, people follow leaders.) Somehow, he got more votes in Indiana(Bush won there by like 15 n' 20%.) That cost me 2k(in winnings...only $50 in money bet.) Gales, three hours after I made the bet, guess what happened. Seems Mr. Obama (who you say can't lead) somehow got Mr. Colin Powell to disagree with you on that. Guess what. Scuds boat was sunk in Indiana on that day. BTW, your only shot at beating OBAMA in 2012 is by somehow convincing this other guy(POWELL) to run. It's about those independant voters, and you're not gunna get them with a Bush, a Newt, or a Holy Roller Hockey Mom. Keep talking about what experience they've had running stuff. It doesn't matter. They will not vote for them. The rich Mormon that talks down to people? They ain't gunna vote for him. Look at who ya just tried to win with. You tried to win with an opposition leader. Other than Powell, that's pretty much all you've got(opposition leaders.) What is Jeb Bush? He's pretty much Bob Dole without the pencil in his hand. You keep ridin' that puppy. See where it gets ya.

Hey he's from Chicago! Enough said and I will admit he's cleaner than the average Chicago Bear. LOL But Rahm? Rove was a villain and at least was out there, where's the Rahm? Google him and Fannie May and unneeded bonus. Then tax washington dc house.

You're about as fair and balanced from what I've read me being one side and the former GOP Riot being the other and that's a compliment. Partial cause Physics was a fav, but that’s the rest of the story. Good Luck and hopefully I can handle any truth. Or head to AP this w/e

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

We know ya don't get it. On this, you're simply unteachable. He blew away Hillary n' McCain with one of the best organized campaigns ever. People worked very hard for him. Now, somehow, in that brain of Gales, this is not registering as leadership. Hey, I underestimated his ability to get people to follow him(Gales, people follow leaders.) Somehow, he got more votes in Indiana(Bush won there by like 15 n' 20%.) That cost me 2k(in winnings...only $50 in money bet.) Gales, three hours after I made the bet, guess what happened. Seems Mr. Obama (who you say can't lead) somehow got Mr. Colin Powell to disagree with you on that. Guess what. Scuds boat was sunk in Indiana on that day. BTW, your only shot at beating OBAMA in 2012 is by somehow convincing this other guy(POWELL) to run. It's about those independent voters, and you're not gunna get them with a Bush, a Newt, or a Holy Roller Hockey Mom. Keep talking about what experience they've had running stuff. It doesn't matter. They will not vote for them. The rich Mormon that talks down to people? They ain't gunna vote for him. Look at who ya just tried to win with. You tried to win with an opposition leader. Other than Powell, that's pretty much all you've got(opposition leaders.) What is Jeb Bush? He's pretty much Bob Dole without the pencil in his hand. You keep ridin' that puppy. See where it gets ya.

tell me why if Jeb goes he ain't going to win florida , he's is , if things ain't better 4 yrs from now and we ain't moving forward ,gpk will tell you NC and VA will go back to the Republican side. As for Ohio and Indiana - these 2 states will go the way of the economy , he ain't winning those on message , people will have to be working porductivly for him to win there , no redo the numbers and all of a sudden it don't look like a landslide

don't forget scuds , this race was a tired old 72 yr man vs a young vibrant 47 yr old , he won't have the luxury of running against a guy that doesn't want the job next time- we shall see

[Riot]

Originally Posted by gales0678

again i'll ask the question - what qualifications did Mr Obama have over Jeb Bush to be president of the United States

For me it was simply because Obama was obviously intelligent. I couldn't do eight more years of dumb, aggressive, simple-minded, close-minded, non-reality based/non-scientific orientation based presidenting. The world is too complex and too scary.

And after hearing John McCain (who I LOVED and was eager to vote for, but that faded fast as the campaign trail advanced) in the last day say Obama should be more aggressive on rhetoric towards Iran's current "let's hope it's a revolution", I'm darn, DARN happy I didn't vote McCain, holy crap.

I worried alot about the experience, but knew he'd surround himself with those who knew, as he had repeatedly demonstrated his ego isn't too big to learn from others.

I really wish that alot of the Obama-haters, instead of listening to media interpretations and small soundbites (I don't care, right or left, doesn't matter), would look at the entire interview and judge for themselves.

For example, today I got a chance to watch the entire MSNBC interview (the one where Obama swatted the fly).

How can anybody say this man needs a teleprompter , or that he's not thought far ahead on the complexities of the bank bailouts, the car companies, the economy? Good lord, he's impressive!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

For me it was simply because Obama was obviously intelligent. I couldn't do eight more years of dumb, aggressive, simple-minded, close-minded, non-reality based/non-scientific orientation based presidenting. The world is too complex and too scary.

And after hearing John McCain (who I LOVED and was eager to vote for, but that faded fast as the campaign trail advanced) in the last day say Obama should be more aggressive on rhetoric towards Iran's current "let's hope it's a revolution", I'm darn, DARN happy I didn't vote McCain, holy crap.

I worried alot about the experience, but knew he'd surround himself with those who knew, as he had repeatedly demonstrated his ego isn't too big to learn from others.

I really wish that alot of the Obama-haters, instead of listening to media interpretations and small soundbites (I don't care, right or left, doesn't matter), would look at the entire interview and judge for themselves.

For example, today I got a chance to watch the entire MSNBC interview (the one where Obama swatted the fly).

How can anybody say this man needs a teleprompter , or that he's not thought far ahead on the complexities of the bank bailouts, the car companies, the economy? Good lord, he's impressive!

This is an amazing post. I just don't know where to begin.

You watched an MSNBC interview (infomercial) and concluded that he doesnt need a telepromptor (though he uses one more extensively than any president in history, even those stupid ones), that he has "thought far ahead" on the economic issues and "complexities", and that he is generally impressive?

And you want to debate serious issues?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This is an amazing post. I just don't know where to begin.

You watched an MSNBC interview (infomercial) and concluded that he doesnt need a telepromptor (though he uses one more extensively than any president in history, even those stupid ones), that he has "thought far ahead" on the economic issues and "complexities", and that he is generally impressive?

And you want to debate serious issues?

LOL - are you for real?

Most people who are "debating issues" get around to discussing the issues, rather than confining themselves to insulting anyone who disagrees with them.

So if you just don't know where to begin, you might try to discuss the subject at hand, rather than repeatedly proving Bill Maher is right about Republicans.

[Smooth Operator]

Reggie Bush would have a better shot at the presidency than Jeb. lol

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

LOL - are you for real?

Most people who are "debating issues" get around to discussing the issues, rather than confining themselves to insulting anyone who disagrees with them.

So if you just don't know where to begin, you might try to discuss the subject at hand, rather than repeatedly proving Bill Maher is right about Republicans.

Perhaps if you focused more on the issues as opposed to the rhetoric you would understand that it is you who consistently throws out insults, makes broad statements without factual evidence or makes generalizations using every possible stereotype out there.

Using Jimmy Carter and Bill Maher to "prove" your points and your rah-rah attitude about all things Obama (He is SO impressive!!!!) while casting stones at the usual GOP punching bags makes you just so intellectually superior to us Conservative people I don't know how we can attempt to debate the issues.

I mean Obama is just SO awesome! What a stylish man! What a smart man! What a crock.