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Old 06-16-2009, 02:11 PM
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But I bet he/she and their spouse would have been proud of America more than once and previous to a year ago!!!!





how often do you see people speak poorly with a microphone in their face? i really think you're overdoing it by latching onto that quote.
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Old 06-16-2009, 02:23 PM
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how often do you see people speak poorly with a microphone in their face? i really think you're overdoing it by latching onto that quote.
but it's one of my favs and reminds me why I lean to the right. Gives that song 'Proud to be an American' a whole new meaning.
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Old 06-16-2009, 02:45 PM
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but it's one of my favs and reminds me why I lean to the right. Gives that song 'Proud to be an American' a whole new meaning.
oh come on...only republicans are patriots? no lefties?
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oh come on...only republicans are patriots? no lefties?
never said that just don't feel Michele O'B is one. Now Colin Powell is a perfect example of a lefty who's a patriot...
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never said that just don't feel Michele O'B is one. Now Colin Powell is a perfect example of a lefty who's a patriot...

just going by where you said 'that's why i lean to the right'. i just don't think love of country has anything to do with political leanings.
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just going by where you said 'that's why i lean to the right'. i just don't think love of country has anything to do with political leanings.
I understand and know some people would actually think the statement, “People in this country are ready for change and hungry for a different kind of politics and …for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback.” is patriotic. I'm not one of them.
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I understand and know some people would actually think the statement, “People in this country are ready for change and hungry for a different kind of politics and …for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback.” is patriotic. I'm not one of them.

people can be patriotic without being proud, can't they? i wasn't exactly bubbling over with pride when george bush was doing his thing. i'm proud of my country without being proud of some of my so-called leaders.

do this-think where michelle obama is coming from. all her life she's most likely had to deal with both racism and sexism (whereas i've only dealt with the latter). can you see where her witnessing a woman having a dammed good change at being prez(clinton), and her minority husband winning the same election could make her more proud than she has ever been? or a reason to feel true pride? she's finally seeing a country that says land of the free, everyone is equal, actually come through in a huge way.
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oh come on...only republicans are patriots? no lefties?
THis is another gaff that gets Rep. in a great deal of trouble.
Its almost like Republicans think they are doing God's work
and the others are heathens. No feeling for the constitution.
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THis is another gaff that gets Rep. in a great deal of trouble.
Its almost like Republicans think they are doing God's work
and the others are heathens. No feeling for the constitution.
i remember when people fussed about obama not wearing a flag pin on his lapel. as i pointed out to my co-workers who mentioned it, 'i don't see one on you either'. that usually made the point and ended the discussion.

also see where some criticized obama for not holding his hand over his heart during the anthem-where it's actually not 'required' as it is during the pledge (you're pledging allegiance, hence covering the heart). BUT, some of the same people critical of him are the same ones i see at football games here on friday night chatting away during the bands playing of the same anthem. drives me batty-along with the poorly done flag raising-another thing that sticks in my craw.
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also see where some criticized obama for not holding his hand over his heart during the anthem.
If you watch the whole several minutes video of that campaign appearance (rather than the photoshopped picture Dell posted and popular on all the far, far righty websites), it shows Obama clearly and loudly singing the national anthem, Hillary looking out into the audience, the other candidates on the rest of the stage (GOP, Joe Biden, etc) turned around away from the audience facing the flag at the back of the stage. And the young person singing the national anthem ... calling it cat screetching would be kind
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